they did get jared cushner to sit down today. but there are still some big people who were really close to the president and more specifically, close to him on the actual day of january 6. people like peter navarro and dan scavenge who were maybe the most intimately involved with some of the schemes to overthrow the results of the election who have yet to cooperate and so the committee at this point in time is really focused on trying to run as many of these loose ties down as possible before transitioning to the public phase. yamiche: and jonathan, jackie just really teed up my next question which is about jared cushner. he wasn't in the country at the time but we do know that jared cushner was such a close -- you call him a close ally but literally family, an in-law of the president, working at the white house. why is his testimony important? why is hearing from him important if he wasn't actually at the white house on january 6? jonathan: he was coming back from sawed razorback on janry 6. he never made it to the white house t