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please welcome jared diamond. [cheers and applause] good to see you again. a geography profession error at ucla, a macarthur genius award winner, a pull lighter prize winner for your book "guns, germs and steel." your new book is called "the world until yesterday: what can we learn from traditional societies." what can we learn? by traditional do you mean a man married to a woman, 2 had the 4 kids, white picket fence in the suburbs as god intends? >> i mean something different by traditional society, i mean the societies that were all societies around the world until relatively recently when population grew. >> stephen: what do you mean recently? >> first state government was 5400 years ago in the fertile crescent and in large parts of united states, rural areas we're living largely traditional today. >> stephen: there are parts of united states that live as we lived 5,000 years? >> there are parts of the united states where some things. >> we went to montana we spend our vacation. if there's an argument between neighboring ranchers they don't call in lawyer

in his new "the world until yesterday" professor jared diamond studies tribes across the globe to lookt the past to help the future. professor, first of all, great book. i'm not all the way through it yet but enjoying it. fascinating read an you talk about how we have this sort of instinct that people are basically the same wherever they live, whatever culture they come from and how that's really not true and you also tell us specifically about the kind of shock going from new guinea to l.a. so tell us a little bit about this. >> coming back from the beautiful jungle of new guinea to l.a. i'm, of course, overwhelmed by the smog, the noise and the indirect relations with people. in l.a. we communicate by text messaging, by telephone. in new guinea, relationships are always face to face and i have the full attention of the people that i'm talking with and we're jabbering all day long. >> professor, you have quotes in the book from people who lived in new guinea and thailand and africa and other places and come to america and see the differences and a lot of people you quote are very youn

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