shannon was alluding to the jared kushner effort to end the conflict there in the last few years, that obviously didn't happen. what's our role there? what should it be? >> garrett, it's a good question. i think what we're seeing is a kind of first thing's first, back to basics diplomacy. they don't want to get involved. as shannon mentioned, the trump people boasted on day one about the grand bargain and the idea that biden and blinken are looking at us and let's do the things that we can do and let's settle the things down that need to be settled. we don't need to do some grand bargain. we need to just make sure that people are stable. in fact, that was the phrase that biden used about the relationship with russia. we want a stable, predictable relationship. i mean, again, between the line, that is absolutely the opposite of what the previous administration did. it wasn't stable. it wasn't predictable. so i think they're not going for the long ball when it comes to diplomacy. they're saying we're back and getting back to basics and they don't want to stir a hoshet's nest any per than

he and his senior advisor son-in-law jared kushner were hugely almost administratively there for these to happen between israel and more countries normalizing relations. what pressure does it put on those relationships? >> i think what jared kushner and president trump did is moved the ball so much on the abraham accords i think it is moving forward. you watching they are extending flights with the israelis and starting trade and doing commerce. that will continue to happen. what you see the arab countries realize they need israel. israel is a very valuable country. a bright spot in a tough neighborhood. they're valuable when it comes to intel and technology and they're strong. and so it will be interesting to see how the arab countries respond to hamas doing this. but i don't think the abraham accords are in any way vulnerable at this point. they've moved in a good direction and i think the arab community realizes that partnership with israel is essential for them and strengthens them as well. >> harris: could you see the current administration matching what former president trump did

. >> harris: you know, kayleigh, quickly, i have been reading that jared kushner, former senior advisorand successful in hopes in keeping those reports, keeping an eye on them and perhaps communicating with the current administration, what are your thoughts on that and you think it would help? >> kayleigh: i think it's fantastic, jared kushner shared with me about this group last week, a brilliant young man who alongside jared negotiated these deals, absolutely, i think that is their goal. whether it was in the trump administration or the newly elected biden administration, we all want peace in the middle east, we all want israel, our strongest ally to be recognized so i praised jared for doing this, regardless of the demonstration he has one goal and its middle east peace. >> harris: emily, your thoughts? >> emily: part of the catalyst for this recent conflict right now is the status of palestinians in jerusalem, obviously, and i just want viewers to understand that the israel supreme court postponed their key decision today, the ruling was going to come out today on that neighborhood,

the biden administration as common, succeeded jared kushner's work on the accords, and i have alwaysdered when the moment would occur when israel-palestine issues were less of a strategic consequence to america. they may be of moral consequence, but when you see other arab states not normalizing with israel with this problem not solved, diana, does that mean this will essentially be a permanent ulcer that gets unresolved? >> i do not think so. we have seen with the trump administration they tried to sweep palestine under the rug, they tried to do away with it. they made sure arab governments ended up normalizing with israel, but let's be clear these are governments, not the people. we still see around the world as we saw with the recent bombinto campaign israel carried out against the gaza strip we sought there are millions of supporters around the world pushing for palestinians to be free and pushing for palestinian liberation. they may try to think they can sweep it under the rug, but this simply continues to raise its head. what we are beginning to witness in the words of one of m

there's never been a case like this, but i feel if you'll give jared kushner secret service protection to expect that this is the kind of trip he would take. he put us on the hook for this kind of charge right then. >> david ferenhold, have a good weekend. >> thank you. >>> right now, thousands of protesters in london are showing support for the palestinian people. >> palestine will be free! >> this very large demonstration comes after palestinians clashed with jerusalem and it happened after a cease-fire went into effect in gaza. let's make our way to erin mclaughlin. >> there have been roadblockages in the neighborhood of sheikh jarrah, according to an nbc producer who was there. around 5:00 p.m. protesters arrived to protest the blockages and they were -- by israeli police and they were thrown stink water and they were there, that israeli police were attempting to restore order. according to the producer, confrontations continued for hours there and it's the kind of thing that can quickly escalate as it did in the days leading up to that violence over gaza which left some 260 palest

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we were working on a peace plan with jared kushner for israel and the palestinians. didn't want to come to the table. we had a conference will be brought together the muslim world to talk about how we could do business in the palestinian territories. helped to give them a better life and a better future. education business and trade. they boycott of the conference. a person with houses around the world and tons of money he refuses to hold an election and they don't care but the palestinian people. they want to pretend that it's in ignorance of what actually happens on the ground. you could ask anybody today about giving money to the palestinians and aid they are just sick of it. let's just be clear about these talking points. they sent out a long-range rocket we would see 90% of the hit rate against israel. could you imagine what would happen? directly responsible as we said yesterday on the show we are combining these long-range missiles. they do this with the purpose of terrorizing israel. the case that i mentioned about the tenant protesting arguably launching acc

she has become the administration jared kushner, maybe she will wring more peace to the middle east releasedwest but at the end of the day, this is a matter for congress and there needs to be a big incentive that involves labor issues, economic issues, immigration issues and thinking about what kind of system we want to allow people to apply legally. kennedy: i don't think she's going to get the first step act in the middle east, i wouldn't give her that much credit, it doesn't look like she's serious about anything here but your friends in congress have to do something because sick. [laughter] >> you are laughing like harris. >> a funny topic. >> kids dying in the desert, what a laugh. >> i was laughing at -- listen. a month ago, don't get me started on this, he had shackles in his wrist and next and teeth, i'm very familiar with the situation, let's be real. destabilize central america by propagating their financial gains, we know the history. you want to get to the root cause? democrats and republicans, i blame cia in every major corporation when vested in central america, i'm not laughin

and then you have certain -- individual figures who didn't think into one one camp necessarily jared kushnerprobably the most pin fliewn influential advisory because he was closest to presidents and his agenda is goal to get the president what he wanted which was a deal and he worked very hard to do that and michael pillsbury a historian became a unique trump whisper on china and he had high access an he also traveled several times to bay diswroing try to explain the trump white house and trump to chinese leadership and this -- he was also very deemly involved in transition and he never until the very end had a job a position inside administration but he had influence nonetheless. so ting that -- that more complicated picture than most people realize and when it comes to trade deal get into this a little bit more and basically i would say that -- you know, in the book david former wall street journal columnist who was working the state department is quoted as putting forth this idea which i largely agree with which is that media covered the trade negotiations as if it was sort of the totalit

the real question is, jared kushner said donald trump hijacked the republican party. the mission is to try and go after republican voters and independent voters who are not with donald trump. >> that could be for 2022, but most definitely looking towards 2024, that is for sure. >> absolutely. >> good to see you. thank you very much. your reporting has always been amazing on this. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >>> thank you for joining us today. it's been a rocking and rolling roller coaster day. john king picks up or coverage right now on "inside politics." >> i am john king in washington. thank you for sharing what is an action-packed news day with us. a white house meeting with the big four congressional leadership, and that sit-down coming on the debate on infrastructure. liz cheney gone today from the republican house leadership. on her way out cheney issued a warning and promise. the warning that donald trump is dragging republicans towards distraction. the promise? this. >> i will do every

so is there a place for jared kushner diplomatically within this administration?sane? [laughter] us >> i don't know about that. i am sure he is a practical guide. i'm sure he just wants to see good positive outcomes. he set up a new institute to embed some of the learnings from the process i think is called the abraham accords institute a survey home for that kind of approach. he certainly commit to building out he and president trump achieved want to play positive role. dividing a missed ration particular they got this completely wrong view on how to handle iran. i don't know. >> i could not agree to moore, steve hilton thank you so much for watching sunday night congratulations on becoming a ua citizen, there you are there is steve hilton taken the oath welcome aboard pre-can outvote in the recall election. >> is a very special day my first vote. kennedy: congratulations for now that is something you been working toward and looking forward too. and i love that so thank you steve. steve are coming up san francisco teachers union announcing they are ready to go ba

the trump administration jared kushner put together a two-state solution that the israelis accepted, american's gulf allies accepted, but the trump administration didn't even negotiate with the palestinians. the palestinians weren't even a part of the discussion. today the palestinians don't really have a government. they've got the palestinian authority representing them, but gaza and hamas effectively in charge, a terrorist organization that doesn't recognize them to exist. all we can say, the only way guard to a two-state resolution is farther away than it has been in any point in decades. antony blinken, we know him, he knows the issues and he will spend his tenure as secretary of state with that issue. >> erin, back to you quickly, because i wonder if you can tell us more about this hamas military parade over the weekend. i think we just saw a video of it. how did it all unfold? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. it happened in gaza. hundreds of hamas militants brandishing their weapons in a parade of sorts in the streets of gaza. really what it illustrates is hamas' attempt to pr

it's also very important to know that when jared kushner and the u.s.bbas rejected it outright. they could have had economic development from the united states to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. they rejected it. now we see them allowing hamas to pay for rockets. they can't afford them in the palestinian territories. they're getting them because the iranians are giving in-kind contributions, giving them money and rockets. >> charles: ric what is the end game? you talk about this cycle that has gone on a long time. they always get sympathy. even hamas from elected officials, the media. what is the ultimate end game? >> the ultimate end game is simple. everybody knows what it is. stop allowing your territory to be used as a launch pad for rockets in to israel. israel is not starting this. let's be very clear. all of these people in the united states, blm and others who are somehow having a moral equivalency test that is going on here are wrong. the rockets would stop on the israeli side if we didn't have the palestinians launching rockets at

we know other members of congress were talking to jared kushner and ivanka trump as the insurrection to the extent to which members of congress may have played a role in helping these insurrectionists by giving them tours. republicans are complicit in this. they are accomplices. they're doing everything they can to ensure there's no bipartisan commission because they know the commission is going to find that they were a part of this. and so they're leaving democrats with no choice, but once again, to go it alone. as they whine and complain about what might end up being a select committee a more partisan process, let me remind everybody that republicans didn't hesitate to have hearing after hearing to investigate hillary clinton under the guise of benghazi, having her testify for 11 hours. so i don't want to hear from republicans when they don't get the bipartisan commission, you know, democrats were willing to give them everything they could have possibly asked for on this for a fair and even process. republicans rejected it, so they're going to have to live with the consequences. >>

in terms of jared kushner, it was a lot easier to deal with the golf then it was to negotiate a serious peace deal before the israelis and palestinians. what's really unfortunate is that since the last gaza war of 2014, there has been stasis, nothing has happened in. the absence now, hamas has rebuilt those tunnels and re-supplied itself with rockets that are penetrating deeper in israel. israelis have not figured out a new plan for dealing with this. but the previous speaker said about the u.s. in president biden's grip, he doesn't want to engage with this. he has this problem now with the democratic party being split ideologically over israel. but he is going to get dragged into this one way or another upstage drags on as the 2014 conflicted. it is a good diplomat in the region, but the u.s. i maginnis going to be taking a greater role soon. >> i think it is safe to say that israel has been shocked at the inventory of rockets and the palestinians, hummus, has been stocking up his whole time that they've seen over those guys. eugene daniels, janine zacharia and chuck rosenberg, can't t

last peace plan put forward by the united states government, that is the peace plan shepherded by jared kushner>> look, i don't think we're at the -- in a place where the getting to some kind of negotiation for what ultimately i think has to be the result, which is a two-state solution is the first order of business. we have to start building back in concrete ways and offering some genuine hope, prospects, opportunities in the lives of people. and of course in the first instance, we've got to deal with the humanitarian situation which is grave. in gaza, we have to start to bring countries together to support reconstruction and development. and as we're doing that, we'll be reengaging with the palestinians and continuing our de deep engagement with the israelis and try to put into condition that will allow us over time to advance a genuine peace process. but that is not the immediate order of business. we have a lot of work to do to get to that point. >> but does the united states government still endorse the outlines of that plan? >> we're going to look at everything that has been done before.

she become the administrations jared kushner maybe she will now bring more peace to the middle east likeat the end of the day this is a matter for congress further needs to be a big fix that involves labor issue, economic issue on really think about what kind of system we want to allow people to apply legally. kennedy: don't think it's on get step factor economic according on the lease. i would not give her that much credit but it doesn't look like she serious about anything here. but your friends in congress have to do something. because this is sick. [laughter] stu varney glad you're laughing just vice president here since very appropriate. >> it's so funny, kids are dying in the desert. what a laugh. it's hilarious. >> listen, don't get me started on this and that someone is detained at the board, put in shackles i am very familiar with the situation let's be real here. the united states destabilize central america by propagating their financial gains. we know the history here. you want to get to the root causes i'm bumming both the democrats and the republicans, i'm blaming ca every

difference between hunter biden who did something worthy of federal investigation and something like jared kushnernt around the world solving middle east peace, something no one has been able to do. incredible work as well. there is a massive difference there. and you are right. if they had even the slightest shred of integrity or filling out paperwork the wrong way, they would be sought after. but hunter biden is coddled like the little baby son that is not worthy of investigating. not worthy of any media coverage. >> sean: the whole thing, the idea that now this impacts the election as well. because we have "the new york post." america's fourth largest newspaper. they have this big story. the picture of hunter biden asleep with a crack pipe. that story. the daily mail has published more information on the laptop. we are told there might even be more damning information on the laptop. not allowed to take possession of it, which renders a lot of questions in my brain about that. now my question is big tech protected joe biden heading into the 2020 election. if that is not a factor in the perceptio

we sat down with jared kushner, the president's senior adviser at the time. are the same. hamas has to recognize the state of israel, give up their weapons and be willing to negotiation. the biden administration has taken a similar stance. martha? >> martha: trey, thank you very much for all of your live coverage. i know it will continue throughout the hours to come as we are experiencing a bit of a pause right now in some of the rockets that we've been seeing fired across the israeli border. go ahead. >> we're getting in some fire right now off in the distance. actually we can see just in the last few minutes here, martha, behind me, a third iron dome battery has been added to this position. so just to give you a sense of what israel is preparing for. >> martha: trey yingst, thanks very much. reporting live on the border. thanks for being with us today. we'll have continuing coverage of what is developing on the border there. you heard the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu saying there's more to come. that it's a weighty encounter that they're in the middle

there were discussions about jared kushner setting up a moscow separate connection. all kinds of things were happening then, which are not necessarily national security protection but are really donald trump protection. trump was demanding that there be some kind of leak investigation at the time. it doesn't surprise me that then barr, his enforcer, went and did this. what pleases me and what fits into really the theme of the justice department right now with rising from the ashes is that they have followed the rules, they are required under the law to notify the reporters. you'll notice the notification was signed by channing phillips, one of the great career prosecutors at the department of justice and who was a complete rule follower. he is the one who sent the letters out. i'm pleased he did. we clearly need to know more information about this. it fits this theme. justice department has come back since merrick garland was sworn in in march. they have the chauvin indictments. they added more case -- they added another case to the indictment. the prosecutions in mi

started with the abraham accords between israel and several sunni arab nations between trump and jared kushnernored the plight of the palestinians an they were left out and would be quiescent, history would suggest not. secondly, you have the effort to change the character of certain neighborhoods and there's push back there and what ben referred to, there's roughly 2 million israeli arabs, most of them who are muslim, some who are christian and they have lived in peaceful coexistence in israeli cities and towns. what is beginning to happen here, we're beginning to see that emerge as another fault line and in part it's a civil rights type of issue. israeli arabs have often been discriminated against. i think the big question is also about whether they're getting slightly radicalized because of what we have seen in jerusalem. because of hamas. because obviously, the other thing that's going on here is hamas is making a bid not just to lead palestinians in gaza but to lead all palestinians including those living in jerusalem and including those living in the occupied territories in the west bank

i guess the reporting suggests that jared kushner was telling mitch mcconnell and others, don't worrygoing to be fine, just let this -- let the court cases proceed and then ultimately, of course, trump kept going and is still going today. still putting out the big lie. but mitch mcconnell has been there holding trump accountable. so, look, if he's saying that they just want to make sure that the commission is balanced and fair and in the tradition of other commissions, previous ones, let's see what happens. i'm not ready to lump him in with kevin mccarthy just yet. look, democrats are politicians, too. republicans are politicians. they just want to make sure it's fair. i don't have a problem with that. let's see what happens. >> you have new reporting. there's an intense conflict in the middle east right now between israel and hamas. the biden administration and, you know, jen psaki, the press secretary, have said the president is involved in quiet intensive diplomacy. we're not seeing everything that's going on in his approach to the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. you've

diplomatic relations with a bunch of sunni-arab nations including qatar and the uae negotiated by jared kushner and of ai berkowitz during the trump years and there is an opportunity to bring in arab allies of the united states that also have diplomatic relations with israel to try to negotiate a peace. there might be a better opportunity in a weird way even though the internal politics between hamas and netanyahu and all that seemed to make things completely out of reach but because of all the other alliances perhaps there is opportunity. you talk about being realistic and i appreciate what you want to say, don't want to set unachievable goals but at the same time isn't part of achieving peace trying to achieve the impossible? >> yeah, absolutely. we have a very serious peace process going on to end the war in yemen. we're working in libya to reduce the risk of additional conflict there. we're working with the countries in the region. i was in the region three weeks ago. secretary blinken will be there next week and we're very supportive with uae and morocco and baah ranges, in touch with all

that afternoon mccarthy was calling trump, he was calling others in the white house, jared kushner, to try to get the rioters off. mccarthy knows what happened that day to a large degree with the former president. he knows a lot of the other members said, we'll do what it takes if you just come out and tell these people to please go home. mccarthy led that day as anyone did. when he's looking at trying to become speaker in 18 months or 16 months or whenever, having this sort of commission that puts a highlight, puts a focus on the former president's actions probably doesn't help them politically, but it also puts him personally in a difficult spot because he could be compelled to explain exactly what he saw, what he did, his conversations that day with trump and the other members, and that's not the way he wants to be. >> jake, in the minute we have left with mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, saying he's done, does that spell the end of this commission, do you think? >> probably. i have a few thoughts. i'm not convinced there can't be ten republicans even if mcconnell oppose

. >> and last year jared kushner famously helped broker a peace deal for the region. and now with this situation deteriorating as it is, you have republicans saying the collapse wouldn't have happened if president trump was still in office. you have democrats saying this shows the kushner plan wouldn't have worked to begin with. what is your take on that? what went wrong here? >> the trump administration talked about recognizing realities on the ground. but the fact is that this ongoing tension, you know, without any kind of a safety valve is also a reality on the ground. and that's the dilemma for the biden administration. it has not appointed a middle east envoy at this point. it has sent, you know, a state department official to the region, as you mentioned, the secretary of state and others are reaching out to everyone here. but the sad reality is at this point in terms of the politics within the israeli/palestinian conflict, there is little prospect that benjamin netanyahu and mahmoud abbas are ever going to agree to any deal to end this conflict. so i think the

better position under the previous administration, israel in a much better position with trump and jared kushner the strings in terms of the approach to israel. now there is a different president and a different democratic party. if you think about conservatives and republicans they have goent much more conservative on israel and the same way in the opposite way in democrats. you see them voicing displeasure and seeing the conflict more through the lens of the civil rights of palestinians rather than the way it was viewed before. this sort of bill that would pass in arming, giving the arm sales to israel, normally would pass without comment. here you see sanders and a.o.c. who are a much more vocal part of the democratic party than in previous years really trying to draw a line in the sand at least symbolically. >> so you watch president biden, who very much so has said i agree with israel's right to defend itself. not so much a fan of netanyahu but the principle that israel has a right to defend itself. netanyahu had a great relationship with trump. it is a more tenuous relationship -- though t

in terms of jared kushner, it was yaerlz easier to deal with the gulf. what's unfortunate is that since the last gaza war of 2014, there's been stasis. hamas resupplied itself with rockets that are penetrating deeper into israel and israelis haven't figured out a new plan for dealing with this. what fellow panelist said is he doesn't want to engage with this and he has the problem of the democratic party being split ideologically over israel but he's going to get dragged into this. the 2024 war lasted seven weeks. he's a good diplomat in the region, but the u.s., i imagine, is going to be taking a greater role soon. >> yeah. it's safeties israel has been shocked at the inventory of rockets that the palestinians, hamas, has been stocking up this whole time that they've seen over their skies. eugene daniels, janine zakaria, and chuck rosenberg, can't thank you enough for supplying our first conversation of tonight for the last night of this week. greatly appreciated. >>> just before we head to our first break here, word arrived late tonight of the loss of

oh probably have information and contact with bill barr, jared kushner, don junior, there could be issues regarding the illegal pardons that were given. they're really not prosecuting. they're convicting. so they already have rudy on affair of violations. everything else again is just going to be icing on the cake. >> all right, that fear a violation, failure to register as a foreign agent. giuliani has denied any allegations relating to faris, saying he was just a vocal critic of yovanovitch. nothing more. he is also insistent that during his time in ukraine he was acting under president trump. statements which trump has recently distance himself. from a person familiar with the investigation to end this nbc news that they had enough of this evidence here to conduct this warrant earlier in 2020, or even sooner than that. but that it was just a matter of timing. so just suggesting that the justice department may have wanted to wait for a change in the administration. for his part, joe biden said he did not know the raid beforehand. he said he wanted to keep his hands completely clean of a

donald trump and his sewn jared -- son-in-law jared kushner were behind the abraham accords between israelld trump said that would mean the dawn of a new time, but that has not happened. >> this was seen as a huge -- at least among republicans anyway, this was seen as a huge y and ddas the cap of donalder issues. the president said this was the foundation for comprehensive it wasn't just the republicans.. the biden administration supported this, and it was something he wanted to see expanded and have other arab nations in the region join. i think a lot of experts are seeing what's happening now given the violence and the likelihood of more nations joining on is slim to none. what we're seeing from the biden administration right now is they they are very much pushing line- private diplomatic diplomacy. a lot of folks in their own party like bernie sanders are coming out and not happy with the president. they would like to see them take a more forceful tone in palestine and what's happening in gaza right now, but you're seeing a traditional approach from the biden administration. >> mary, if

you may remember that jared kushner told bob woodward in his book that trump had hijacked the republican party. what several republicans have said to me is it was a party that wanted to be hijacked. so i think your point is well taken in that the question now is list cheney has laid down her marker but can she be effective? can other republicans in effect never trump republicans either take back the republican party, wrestle it away from trump? right now that doesn't look very likely or are they going to go in a new direction? >> david axelrod, one of our reporters was just giving some background information. i just heard it in my ear that her colleagues, fellow lawmakers, republican lawmakers, they cleared out of the chamber when she was speaking. only one according to the report i just got. only one remained to even listen to what she was saying. >> very heroic. i think that it's very clear that they've made their decision and as i said at the outset, she is embarrassing them by telling the truth. it's a truth they don't want to hear and they are acting on mass and trying to find comfo

have the son-in-law as the president as a major ally in the west wing, which is of what he had in jared kushnerely has a favorable stance toward israel, biden does, but he's facing rifts in the party now, biden has, but with democrats and growing criticism. even on an international level. look at what is happening with the united nations. that is a program that you saw president biden say he wanted to restore the united states' standing in. and they're incredibly frustrated with what the united states' standing towards israel is. and there's a lot of pressure. facing the white house over how to navigate this. and when the cease fire does eventually happen. >> kaitlan collins, appreciate it. >>> coming up next, 30 republicans voting to establish the investigation into the january 6th insurrection. helping it barricade the house door on january 6. we ask constituents a bt that. >> to call it an insurrection is a bold-faced lie. people were in orderly fashion, taking videos and pictures. if you didn't know the tv footage was a video from january 6th, you would think it was a normal tourist visit.

he'll probably have information and contact with bill barr, with jared kushner, with don jr. there could be issues regarding the illegal pardons that were given out. who knows what is in there? you know who knows? the southern district of new york and they don't play fair. the funny, the irony here is that rudy was the one who created that playbook for the southern district to really take this gangster tactic, you know, against individuals that they're prosecuting. they're really not prosecuting, they're convicting. so they have rudy on a fara violation. everything else again will be icing on the cake. >> rudy has stayed very, very loyal to donald trump, in part because in the post-election era he was getting paid a lot of money to do so. when push comes to shove and, as you said, he knows the southern district of new york better than most, is he going to flip on donald trump or is he going to stay loyal? >> well, first of all, rudy and donald -- and i said this on other shows. rudy and donald are not friends. it is not like they have this long standing relationship where the

less so, we were told at least by jennifer, less so, questions about, say, giuliani, or jared kushner. so we were sort of getting the outline of at least some of the topics. what do you think of everything we just discussed? her new comments? as well as what investigators are looking at? >> well, i think, we're maybe getting ahead of ourselves. for one thing, there is no such crime as obstruction of justice in the new york state system. there is witness tampering. but based on the facts that we have laid out here, it's not even close to made out. it's possible that allen weisselberg had something to do with evicting her. and then, if you can connect the dots that that's in order to prevent her from communicating information. she is about to be called as a witness. new york laws are not very broad in this area. they are nothing like the federal laws that nick was talking about. so i don't think there's -- i mean, there is a reason to ask questions, sure. i mean, who -- why did that happen? >> no, let's pause on that. daniel, let's -- let's pause on that point, which is you're talking a

embassy to jerusalem, essentially shunning the palestinians from the peace plan that jared kushner cookedat one point. so joe biden when he came in had a challenge, on the one hand he had democratic party which once the u.s. to be more responsive to palestinian needs. but also joe biden has his own unshakable leave from decades of foreign policy with israel, he believes that it is crucial and israel is the most important u.s. ally in the region. in that way, he is much more like republicans. i think what you saw in that speech was a real determination to empathize, regardless of what the party may say. i to believe that israel is a important, perhaps the most important ally in the region and i'm going to stick to that. shery: how does this issue play out at the united nations question mark aging was holding -- united nations? >> the president did address that because the u.s. had three times essentially blocked the state from the u.n. that would have called for a cease-fire. it is more complicated because i wanted to engage in quiet diplomacy and what the administration suggested is that

during the trump administrationjared the trump administration jared kushner the trump administrationjared? goad out for their interests? good question- — out for their interests? good question. there has - out for their interests? good question. there has been i out for their interests? (limp. question. there has been mistrusted so far between the israeli government and the biden administration. i think it's misplaced. i would argue that because i work directly for the obama administration and had... i witnessed first—hand these open communications, these dialogues, these check ins which were weekly, if not more, and how close they were. they were very frank. they didn't mean we agreed on everything but it definitely meant we were open and honest and transparent about our interests and goals. we are used to talking with the israelis. the israelis should know, and i hope they don't have a short memory, that a lot of the individuals in the biden administration were the ones who fought to fund the iron dome. that's one of the most significant defence systems, if not the most, that the israel

bill barr about the remand back to prison, could be all sorts of communications between him and jared kushner, potentially, you know, ivanka, bill barr again regarding these illegal pardons that everybody was shopping around for. who knows what's in there. you know who knows? rudy giuliani knows. that's why he's saying the most ridiculous and stupid things that rudy has ever said. as we all know over the last two years, rudy has said a lot of stupid stuff. >> last question to you, michael, do you anticipate rudy giuliani doing what you ultimately did, and that is to cooperate with the investigation? >> if rudy doesn't cooperate, he's a bigger fool than i even thought he was because donald trump is going to throw him under the bus the same that he did to me. the difference is rudy will do a 5k-1 agreement, something i won't do. mine was a campaign finance violation and rudy is more significant. rudy potentially involved himself in national security issues whereas mine was a campaign violation that i was never part of the campaign. i didn't do a 5-k-1 cooperation agreement. i just cooperated be

do you think that we might see jared kushner impacted by this? or maybe even ivanka? will giuliani flip on trump? questions abound. what do you think? >> our view has always been when it comes to the entire sorted affair connected to the trump ukraine scandal as well as the trump presidency for that matter that no one is above the law, and at the end of the day investigative authority should just follow the facts, apply the law, be guided by the constitution and let the chips fall where they may and present the truth to the american people. it seems like rudolph giuliani, who by the way was a failed mayor, failed lawyer, failed presidential candidate and now may be on his way to becoming a convicted felon, is in the greatest jeopardy because it doesn't appear as though he complied with the lobbying registration laws in the process of him apparently lobbying on behalf of the ukrainian government perhaps to get the u.s. ambassador to ukraine fired because the ukrainian government was upset about her efforts at rooting out corruption in their country. that's where the je

. >> the elephant in the room, congressman, is jared kushner ran relations for a four years and i think the adults have returned. we were talking about the sort of style of this white house lending itself to i think yamiche said walking and chewing gum and it's gone without harsh critics within the president's own party. what's your analysis of how well his conduct in the crisis is received in your own party? >> i think the president is rock solid. i give president biden get credit. i served in the white house. saw the president every day during the war in kosovo. it is difficult to make decisions in realtime and real people are in harm's way and so many things are outside your control but to engage the way we did on this, produce a cease fire i think is an enormous step forward. there are real risks and not out of the woods yet but this is a very positive step and as a result of adults in the room. you won't do better than secretary tony blinken. nobody has more experience than president biden right now and this is where you see it matter. people are going to -- not going to lose their

we heard that, you know, jared kushner was going to be arrested.back during the george w. bush administration, don't be too far from the studio, because karl rove is going to be indicted this friday. don't be too far from the studio. it happened like 5:00, 6:00, 7:00 weeks in a row. it's this friday that karl rove is going to get indicted. karl rove never got indicted. matt gaetz, we've been hearing about this investigation now for about a month and a half, maybe. and we keep hearing the same thing. they're trying to figure out whether he had sex with a 17-year-old girl. all right, well, they probably know by now, and yet, we keep hearing it. the leaks keep coming and they keep coming in all of these different directions. now it's rudy giuliani and the leaks are coming out on rudy giuliani and now it's victoria tunsing. and now it's joe dady engineva. if my people keep leaking stuff like this, they're fired! how long are we going to keep like putting people out there -- by the way, i'll say this for democrats, as well, too. so don't come after me o

it's state attorney generals or from whatever sources that have basically, you know, suggested jared kushnerow, matt gaetz probably been a thousand headlines that had matt gaetz and the word sex trafficking in the same headline. what happens if he's not convicted of sex trafficking, exactly where do you go to expunge those thousands of headlines. hillary clinton supporters will tell you for a year and a half there were people inside the fbi that were leaking about her emails, then leaking act the clinton foundation, leaking that she was going to be going to jail, 56% of americans thought she should have been indicted based on all of those leaks. so, chuck, at what point -- so now we have this. it's a story. i know we got -- >> he's responded to it, president trump. >> he has responded to it, president trump. he's confirming that that investigation is under way. but as a prosecutor, how much does it disturb you that we just keep doing this? that people inside of agencies keep doing it. they did it to karl rove. i always said every friday i think it was the summer of 2007 i would get a call, h

i think jared kushner is at the moment setting up an institute of the abram accords in florida, touting the success of their deals with morocco and the ae. those countries now looking at what's happening in israel in dismay because this makes their accord with israel look pretty shaky at the moment. they've had to put out statements distancing themselves from israel because of the overwhelming force being used and the number of people in gaza being killed. it's really exacerbated the situation not just between people in gaza and israel, but potentially between israel and israel's new allies in the region, as well. >> which was historic, when you could get israel and sunni arab states together in peace accords, that's a positive thing. it's something that we should all want for that region. but the one thing we don't have right now is a good faith intermediary between us and the palestinian leadership. somebody that can help us go in there and get a palestinian leader and netanyahu together and really not ask nicely. say, this has got to end. you've got to stop killing civilians. this ha