by jared kushner. you cannot pick and choose. host: yesterday on the capitol hill, there was a close door hearing. we heard about it -- here is the front-page headline from the washington times this morning. biden played a powerful role in his son's deal. the lead story in today's washington times. james comer is the chairman of the house oversight committee leading this probe and he is the chairman of that committee where that closed door hearing happened. this was his tweet yesterday, saying -- that tweet from james connor. he was on sean hannity show last night. he has addressed this issue on finding some way to add more scrutiny to children of the family members of the president and vice president and he talked about it in may at a press hearing of the oversight committee. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> chinese nationals affiliated with the bidens -- transfer their interest to a chinese company that sent money to the biting --bidens. this is not normal. hunter biden and his associate a

it is wrong what the kushners did, what ivanka and jared did. it's wrong what all of them did, and we need to talk about it more. >> claire mccaskill, i'm glad we had this conversation. i need your perspective here. thank you as always for your time this evening. >> my pleasure. >>> still more to come tonight. the drip, drip, drip of revelations about the luxury gifts that justice clarence thomas has received from his billionaire friends. that drip, drip, drip is turning into a flood. that's coming up next. turning into a flood that's coming up next. [ tires screeching ] jordana, easy on the gas. i gotta wrap this commercial, i think i'm late on my payment. it's okay, the general gives you a break. yeah, we let you pick your own due date. good to know, because this next scene might take a while. for a great low rate, go with the general. wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. next scene might take a while. it's to die for. and it's all right here. streaming was never this easy, you know. this is the way. you really went all out didn't yo

by jared kushner.ou cannot pick and choose. host: yesterday on the capitol hill, there was a close door hearing. we heard about it -- he is the front-page headline from the washington times this morning. biden played a powerful role in his son's deal. the lead story in today's washington times. james comer is the chairman of the house oversight committee leading this probe and he is the chairman of that committee where that closed door hearing happened. this was his tweet yesterday, saying -- that tweet from james connor. he was on sean hannity show last night. he has addressed this issue on finding some way to add more scrutiny to children of the family members of the president and vice president and he talked about it in may at a press hearing of the oversight committee. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> chinese nationals affiliated with the bidens -- transfer their interest to a chinese company that sent money to the biting --bidens. this is not normal. hunter biden and his associate accor

let's just briefly walk through what jared kushner did.e was put in to run a hodge par folio in a government where he had no experience. running foreign policy in the middle east peace process. he has no experience. what does he do? first he becomes best buddies with the crown prince of saudi arabia. he gets trump to go to saudi arabia for his first trip. he has the crown prince in the white house dining room. he does all that. and what happens the minute trump leaves office? he starts for the first time a private equity fund. he goes over and asks the crown prince for two billion dollars. and you know what the committee said that runs the sovereign wealth fund for saudi arabia? they said, this is a really bad idea. they did their due diligence and failed miserably in every test of due diligence. and management fees were excessive. they recommended against making a two billion dollar investment. of course, the crown prince came along and overruled him, and gave jared kushner two billion dollars. now compare that with mnuchin who was treasu

. >> let's talk about jared kushner for a minute. this is the trump organization and obviously, this is trump's issue, but jared kushner is actually getting attention now. jamie raskins and democrats in the house are asking to look into the $2 billion that he got. and he's asked republicans -- >> from the saudis. >> so he leaves affinity partners, a $3 billion equity fund kushner founded after they left the white house. there's some peeking into that a little bit. >> they're peeking into it because jared kushner in the investment world is a junior mint. no one would be given jared kushner $2 billion unless he had proximity to the former president of the united states and that you're placing a bet that he'll have proximity to a future president of the united states. >> or that there already was some quid pro quo. >> like, for example, arms that went to saudi arabia when most of the congress was against it and trump approved it and actually overrode congressional opposition to an arms deal with the saudis. i think both steve mnuchin an

i'm certain that, look -- i don't know it, but i expect that doj has talked to jared kushner, or try k to jack kushner. he is one of these figures that doesn't make a lot of appearances here. and maybe he doesn't have that much information about criminality to offer to the jackson team. but ultimately, he is a question for just as much as mark meadows is, whether he has a prominent role, and whether, again, like mark meadows, jared kushner, when these cases go to trial. will we see him walk down the aisle in the courtroom and take the witness stand? and that is way off their decisions, still something the og is gonna have to decide. it's mostly guesswork at this stage. >> katie, quickly, let's talk about years, potential sentencing, what is your vision on that? what is possible for trump here? >> listen, i know this issue, about whether or not you could put a former president with a secret service detail in a prison, i offered this solution the other day. put him in solitary confinement. and then, he won't have exposure to the general population. and then, he won't be a safety risk. a

you see nothing of jared kushner. jared kushner was the secretary of everything. how is it possible that he is not listed here? he was there, on donald slap, the entire time, from the day donald entered the white house to the day that he left. >> how do you explain it? >> i believe he is probably a cooperating witness. >> jared kushner, that's interesting because people pointed out mark meadows is conspicuously absent, okay, from the indictment. jared kushner is his son-in-law. you think his son in law would cooperate against donald trump? >> in a heartbeat. needing jared is any different than donald? do you think donald wouldn't throw jared under the bus in order to save himself? the answer is an impact to guess. >> you think the same is true of mark meadows? >> absolutely. what's the one thing bill barr said i totally agree with? donald doesn't care about anyone or anything other than himself. he is a one-way street. if that means jared has to go down to mark meadows, or rudy, where eastman, or any of them, he doesn't care. that is who he is. >> speaking of east

you see nothing of jared ku kushner. jared kushner was the secretary of everything. how is it possible he is not listed here? he was there. he was on donald's lap, from the entire time the day that donald entered the white house, to the day he left. >> how do you explain it? >> i believe he is a cooperating witness. >> jared kushner. that's interesting. people have pointed out that mark meadows is conspicuously absence from the indictment. but vch jury ared kushner is hi son-in-law. you think jared kushner would cooperate? >> you don't think donald wouldn't throw jared under the bus? it's an emphatic yes. >> you think the same is true about mark meadows? >> absolutely. what's one thing that bill barr said? donald trump doesn't care. he's a one-way street. that means in jared goes down, mark meadows, or rudy giuliani, or eastman, or any of them, he doesn't care. that's just who he is. >> re >> speaking of eastman, eastman's attorney says john eastman will not turn on donald trump. here's what he said earlier tonight. >> dr. eastman is happy to tell his side of the sto

what was jared kushner doing in the middle east? >> again, sir, it all stinks to me. ll stinks. >> yeah. look, and i've been vocal that i think that what kushner did crossed the line of ethics. but what christie said, it happened after he left office. still no excuse, jake, but it happened after he left office. and jared kushner actually has a legitimate business. this money from the bidens happened while joe biden was vice president, while he was flying to those countries. he flew -- days after he left romania his family started receiving wires from a corrupt romanian foreign national. days. like four days after he left. including his granddaughter. what's his granddaughter doing getting a wire from a romanian foreign national? >> but -- >> this is why we're investigating. and it's difficult, jake. it's very difficult. the biden attorneys are obstructing. they're intimidating witnesses. the doj will not cooperate with us. the fbi will not cooperate with us. the irs will not cooperate with us. thank god we had whistleblowers from the irs testify in our committee that t

i don't think anybody buys that. >> of course he does. >> jared kushner was negotiating for peace andllion of dollars. >> thank you for that robust conversation. we'll have to leave it there. >> thank you. >>> ahead, there is new surveillance video that has just been released in the racist rampage that happened in jacksonville and left three black victims dead over the weekend. we have new details that we are learning about the shooter tonight when we return. cancncelled plans? the worry?y? that was then. and look at me now. you'll never truly forget migraine. but qulipta® reducuces attacks, makingng zero-migraine days possible. it's the only pill of its kind that blocks cgrp - and is approved to prevent migraine of any frequency. to help give you that forget-you-get migraine feeling. don't take if allergic to qulipta®. most common side effects are nausea, constipation, and sleepiness. learn how abbvie could help you save. qulipta®. the forget-you-get migraine medicine™. ( ♪ ♪ ) ( ♪ ♪ ) experience the sanctuary of handsfree highway driving with lincoln bluecruise. it's the final days

from the saudis to jared kushner and ivanka trump. $2 billion. now we have another president who's doing exactly the same thing. and allowing hunter biden to run rough shod making money from foreign governments and having access to joe biden. >> let's see. $2 billion, laptop. i don't think it's the same, but that is former new jersey governor and presidential candidate chris christie making a comparison between hunter biden and trump's son-in-law jared kushner, the one very key difference on jared kushner, hunter biden is and ever been a white house employee. so listen. we don't like it, but it happens. jimmy carter had billy carter, and reagan -- did reagan have some siblings? i don't know. >> clinton did. >> bill clinton certainly did. sometimes, you know, sometimes can't control family members, and you want to, but you can't. there's a big difference between that and people having to be pulled in line when billy starts showing up next to khadafi in parades, and coming out the other side $2 billion richer. i mean, the comparison -- again, i'm n

remember, jared kushner was a member of the government the hunter biden is not.gain, they're trying to attribute somehow wrongdoing to the president, and they can't produce even one piece of evidence to show that. that's why this is a problematic investigation right now. >> we did hear from two obama officials who raised concerns about hunter biden's work, specifically his work in ukraine. so this has been an ethical issue for quite some time. do you think democrats have not taken it seriously enough? >> no, they have taken it seriously, but mr. weiss has been investigating it for five years. he's investigated even those particular issues you talked about. i had a chance to look at some of this evidence in a scif as well. unfortunate for they cannot produces any evidence of wrongdoing, much as they have tried up to this point. >> congressman, we appreciate your time today. >> thank you. >>> coming up, a dramatic hearing in d.c. today in former president trump's 2020 election interference case, which could set the tone. the judge's warning to the former president,

the illusion of access or actual access, i would like to start talking about the $2 billion that jared kushnerlking about all the benefit that is ivanka trump got while being a senior adviser in the white house, as did jared kushner. so i think, you know, i think it's a legitimate topic. i think we need to talk about family members who benefit from their parents, their spouses, their siblings in positions of power, but the people who start -- who need to start looking at it also include congress because listen. if we identified every spouse, every sibling, every useless child who gets a job because their father was a senator or a governor, the list would be long. i know a few of them. >> ana, i want to go back now to republican primary politics. this may be one of the few times i say this. do you know who agrees with your theory that an indicted former president will not make a good general election candidate? it's your governor, florida governor ron desantis who i think in more stringent terms as of late is going after the former president. listen. >> you don't believe that former president t

look, you know, his son-in-law jared kushner, pocketed a cool $2 billion -- >> jonathan: from saudi arabia. >> from saudi arabia. >> jonathan: there was a portfolio in the white house. what about hunter? >> i'm concerned about it and i'm concerned not just about public officials like donald trump and jared kushner, but even family members who water ski along for the ride and i have been, you know, begging my colleague, chairman comer for us to do a serious analysis of what the laws should be about money-making. >> jonathan: and you would take part in a serious investigation. >> of course, we would, and we're going to release a report about all of the foreign government emoluments. and we want to look at the business deals when he was president. they have not laid a glove on joe biden. as president, they haven't been able to show any criminal corruption on his part. what they've got is hunter biden, and we all seem clear that this guy was addicted to drugs and did a lot of unlawful and wrong things, and we have said let the justice system run its course. they're not saying that about donald

then you have jared kushner you that billions of dollars from the saudi's, after office. there is so much more that goes into this. it is like a horse on the racetrack with the blinders on. they are going for the finish line. host: it is 7:30 on the east coast come about a half hour into washington journal. comments from fanni willis happening last night. here is a little bit more, announcing the indictment. >> all elections are put out by the state. we want to ensure a fair process and an accurate accounting of the votes. that includes elections for presidential elections, congress, state officials and local offices. the state's role is essential to the functioning of our democracy. georgia, like everything has long been allowed those who believe that the election results are wrong, whether because of intentional wrongdoing or unintentional error to challenge those results in our state court. the indictment alleges that rather than abide by georgia's legal process for the old challenges, the defendants engaged in a criminal racketeering enterprise to overturn george's pr

when you talk about jared kushner and talk about i wasn't really there. he is trying to put some distance away from january 6. i wonder when it gets to trial that this is where you will see the transcription testimonies come out and illustrate the point that even trump some family -- own family did not believe this. host: there were more serious charges in the mar-a-lago case. are more charges likely in this case related to january 6? guest: it's possible i may know that the grand jury and d.c. has been hearing evidence about potential fraud with respect to the save america pack and how they were fundraising and they want to stand up a legal defense fund and they got the money and didn't use it and didn't pay lawyers. we note there are further interviews scheduled with the counsel's office with -- with rick -- with witnesses that will talk about that. host: the grand jury that handed down the indictments, they are still in panel and their work is not yet done? guest: that's actually pretty common in these cases. they will hand down indictments and then th

witnesses, including trump's former chief of staff, mark meadows, son-in-law and senior advisor jared kushnere allegedly pressured in a failed bid to change trump's election losses into victories. for more than a year, federal prosecutors have been

so what was jared kushner doing in the white house?uary 6, jak was in the middle east. >> and i heard from a prominent investor thatwas in the middle east. >> and i heard from a prominent investor that there is not much out there on how he is executing his funding. he has all this money, but his background is not in private equity. and i've seen only one news report of a small european investment. are the saudis investing with him just to hedge their bets politically in case trump comes back into office? >> those are your words not i mean, but certainly a reasonable speculation. yeah, we haven't seen a lot and to a lot with this money. he has hired some people. i do know that. you mentioned that you had seen one investment i had not even seen. it is normal to invest the money over a period of several years. so i don't think that we can draw a firm conclusion yet. but again we're going back to a real estate guy and not a good one at that who is trying to do private equity deals. if you were the saudis, i wouldn't count on making a lot o

jared kushner gets two billion dollars even though he saw -- totally kosher -- ivanka trunk she's doing business with the chinese while she's working in the white house, totally beautiful, right? what i bring that up they want to have credibility, they have none. the lack of their credibility questions your credibility. not because of you personally because of what they've done over the last several years. so, the chairman says your credible. do you want to know what they feel about you? people like you. they work in, government i got pages of it. it goes on for years. you know what, i'll read a couple of adjectives. trump has called people like you, so-called whistleblowers, fake whistleblowers, partisan people. political hack jobs, scams, frauds, traders, cowards, spies, losers, clowns, the eggs, puppets, unelected bureaucrats. my favorite, the deep state. by the way, you members of the deep state? are you members of the deep state? it's a rhetorical question. did you stop paying your deep state is? you did not attend the latest deep state meaning. that's why you're not in the deep st

murray is jared kushner's uncle. ped chris christie put charles kushner in jail when crhristie was u.s. attorney. >> he was a key part of that investigation. and basically, not flipped, but just helped christie get his brother nailed. the family history of the kushners and crhristie is just fascinating. jah ved kushner ask christie had to navigate each other, but he was operate ing in the trump ort adviser.red kushner was a senior there's no love lost. >> if it we put that back up, i don't want to leave the mooch out in the cold. scaramucci was a supporter at the beginning of the trump administration and he's now giving $100,000, a big check to the christie superpac. i want to move on to the cash on hand, when we were looking at the overall amount of money that these superpacks and these are the big organizations that can raise unlited nmoney. they are not supposed to coordinate with the campaigns themselves, but a lot of these candidates are relying heavily on them when their own money is sort of dwindling. that defi

he doesn't want to talk about jared kushner who brought back $2 billion, not million, $2 billion to saudi company the day after the trump administration ended. >> why do you think a thrice former president is neck in neck in the polls? >> well, it's a great question. i wish lincoln were around here to pose it to him. that was a pro immigration, anti-nothing and now it's become a cult of an authoritarian personality. even the candidates running against trump dare not challenge his clear betrayals of his constitutional oath. donald trump knew exactly what he was doing and we have lots of testimony about that before the january 6th committee. his white house counsel told him he was wrong. the attorney general of the united states said the arguments he was following were bs. he had to know. 50 state and federal courts rejected every argument they brought forward and still he went ahead. even if he believed what he did, you might believe your bank owes you the money. you don't have a right to go rob the bank. >> jamie raskin, appreciate your time. >> thanks so much for having me. >>> president

witnesses, including trump's former chief of staff, mark meadows, son-in-law and senior advisor jared kushner, and several officials from battleground states who were allegedly pressured in a failed bid to change trump's election losses into victories. for more than a year, federal prosecutors have been investigating alleged attempt by trump and others to overturn the 2020 election results in hopes of reversing trump's loss to joe biden. special counsel jack smith also investigating trump's actions during the january 6 insurrection when he told supporters to march on the capital. trump began bracing for another arrest after smith's office sent him a target letter notifying him he was the focus of the grand jury probe. >> i did not know practically what a subpoena was and grand's. now i'm, like, becoming an expert. >> in may, smithson trump -- smith sent trump a target letter before indicting him in the mar-a-lago classified documents probe. in an indictment filed last month, trump is accused of mishandling documents including top-secret military and nuclear records after leaving office and ob

. >> tim, i can remember sitting with jared kushner and him telling me all press's good press for donaldlishing in donald trump's name and face on every single television screen. but he lost the last election. and now, here we are. and some gop strategist are actually saying that this particular indictment in georgia could hurt him politically, simply because of the nonstop coverage in a state like georgia, those voters could get impacted. and georgia is a majorly important state come 2024. do you agree with that? >> i absolutely agree that this hurts him in a general election in georgia, for sure. and you know, i'm sure that he'll try and turn all the focus on him in fulton county as he can, if they make him to the mugshot, as they promised they would, i'm sure you will put it on t-shirts and mugs and try to sell it. and i think that will probably help. i think the kushner theory of more presses good press is true in the republican primary, because it sucks all the oxygen out of the room for anyone else would want to emerge in this primary. but in a general election, absolutely it hurts

one thing to develop relationships and offers to turn to business opportunities later the weight jared kushnerld trump son-in-law's it in the middle east. it's another to leverage the office while in office to promote the family business as mr. archer said, the advantage of the biden brand is that legally people would be intimidated to mess with them. congressman fry, what was your ultimate take away from devon archer's testimony what you make up with the wall street journal said there? >> first of all, thanks for having me. the biggest take away is that joe biden seems to be the closer fort hunter biden and his business associates in every which way of course they have denied it for years. other back to the 202020 campaign. but joe biden would come in and meet with the russian oligarchs and chinese businessmen and then the next day at hunter biden would receive a payment. it continues this a pattern this very disturbing pattern that devon archer testimony summed up pretty well which was he was the branch. they were the brand, they were the protection for anything that could go wrong on the wo

relationships while in office and then do business once you're out of office which is what she says jared kushnere name while you're in the white house which appears to be what the bidens have done. >> it certainly does. and again, i go back to just hunter's own statements that they've taken out of the laptop and all the stuff that's recorded on the communications that are recorded on there. he talks about the fact that, well, i've got to be careful of a fara violation here. we might have to register at foreign agents here, et cetera. i'm dealing with the spy chief of china. he never does anything about it. he himself is aware. that's a situation where somebody can never claim that they were unaware of what they were getting into because his own words have put him in it and i go back again to this mountain of evidence that we have, patrick ho was wiretapped apparently. where is that material? did it go into this investigation of hunter biden? because when patrick ho got arrested, the first person he called was jim biden. and when they asked jim biden about it he told the new york times oh, i thin

lowell, someone who has represented bill clinton and jared kushner, on the case officially, he's been involved in other matters involving the president's son. the reason hunter's team is saying chris clark left is because of a rule in delaware prevents him from being hunter's attorney if he would be a witness in a future case. this filing suggests that hunter's team may have a problem with how this plea deal fell apart and chris clark would be a witness. that's how they are spinning it. >> john: david spunt, thank you. >> gillian: former president trump and 18 others are named in the georgia grand jury indictment. they have to august 25th to surrender to authorities in the state. fourth indictment against trump, alleged attempts to overturn his election loss in the state. jonathan, the sheriff says the former president is going to be booked just like any other defendant. what do you make of that? >> well, in theory that would mean he would have his mug shot taken at the fulton county jail. the problem is, he's a former president of the united states. there are security concerns to beg

lie but generally thought it was true, subpoena witnesses close to trump whether as we've heard jared kushner, we've heard mike pension, others subpoenaed for that. also trying to deal with these, i would say, advice of counsel -- the advice he's getting from dishonest or, you know, crooked lawyers, people like giuliani or eastman who have offered very questionable unethical legal theories. what he would believe about that. what else was he told by legitimate, you know, honest lawyers about what his legal options were? i think that's going to be a focus of what he's looking for. >> now, you, of course, have the georgia investigation which relates specifically to trump and his allies' efforts to overturn the election there but if you were to have him indicted, both here in federal court, in georgia, the state investigation, in addition to the indictment and that was superseded in fact, expanded last week in the documents case and the one in new york this is a man running for president currently leading the gop nomination, how busy would he be in court in the coming weeks and months? >> for mos

attorney that represented bill clinton, jared kushner is on the case officially. he's been involved in other matters involving the president's son. the way hunter's team is framing this is that chris clark may be a witness in an upcoming case about this plea agreement falling through. according to a delaware code of conduct rule, an attorney that will be a witness in a future case cannot currently be an attorney. that's why clark is out and lowell is in. neil? >> i think i got it. david, thanks very much. tom dupree and katie are here. brilliant lawyers to sort of pick apart both cases. tom, i want your take on hunter biden's lawyers demanding the department of justice honor that part of the plea deal. seems to have been blown up now and nowhere near getting back together. what do you think? >> i'm very skeptical of hunter biden's lawyers argument that this is binding and valid. it was not approved by the judge. although there's some truth that diversion agreements are different than plea agreements, i don't see how they can have a binding agreement if the justice

d.c., from hotel deals to ivanka and donald trump junior's wealth blowing up exponentially and jared kushnerreat them as if this is going to be -- wooee're all talg about trump versus biden, who's worse? >> there are other people in the picture. i'm holding these two issues completely separately. i used to be a member of congress. >> yeah. i used to be a member -- >> >> thank you. >> part of the problem is that the american people is being lost in all of this and that's my concern. >> we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. from $30 a month to just $15 a month. well, it's easy. we know a great price on a great product is better than one of those things. right? does big wireless really believe that these things actually work? ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) this one will never see the light of day. all right. [ding] aargh! aargh! aargh! trouble booking the family vacay? come on. [whoosh] [ding] comfort has free hot breakfast for the whole fam! they have waffles! [whoosh] [ding] and splendid pools! [ding] cannonball! book direct at choicehotels.com. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we were loading our

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i think the rest of them have said, i think junior jared kushner has got his money from the saudis, i think ivanka -- brand -- and i think melania has had her fill of it ever since -- ridiculous stuff he refused to do on the day that people were attacking police officers in our capitol. >> i love that claire is like, i'm going to need to weigh in on this one. kristy, what is your view on how this case has laid out? does it seem to strong? or too broad? because the clock is ticking. and this thing is expansive, to say the least. >> it is. but i think it reflects real thought and careful work over two and a half years have an investigation. remember, doj didn't start investigating until april of 2022, 15 months after january 6th. fani willis was rolling up her sleeves and getting to work immediately after the events of january 6th. so, she has had some time, where she has built a case, not just against donald trump, but against his allies. and i think it is really important, not just for the state interests that -- i agree with claire, there are real state interests at issue here. those

jared kushner you don't hear about. one wonders what their role is.icted, who are named in here, lots of detail about who spoke to whom, who called whom and who said what to whom and what you come away with is this was a conspiracy. this wasn't a clown car of people. it looked like a clown car in the beginning with the four seasons landscaping, rudy giuliani speeches. >> the war run meeting? >> yes. >> you pointed out something, we have 45 seconds left here but you say specifically how you mentioned this one point that really stood out to you in this indictment. what was? >> yeah. on january 3rd the co con spiritor 4 spoke to the deputy white house counsel told co-conspiritor 4 there had not been outcome determinative fraud in the election. if the defendant remained in office, being donald trump, there would be, quote, riots in every part of the united states. co-conspiritor four, well, that's why there's an insurrection. >> unbelievable. jeffrey clark. >> who actually said yes by the way. he told donald trump he would accept that appointment as actin

jared kushner getting $2 billion from the saudis. hunter biden trading on his father's name. see is happening broadly overtime in both parties. >> that's sort of why i sighed there. if i'm waking up and reading this this morning, why would you, as vice president, if this is true what comer is saying, 20 phone calls or presence of biden as vice president with his son doing business in china and ukraine, with these business associates, i would want to understand that better. i would think that that seems odd. i wonder if voters will say, trump did it. biden did it. apples to apples. i'm not saying they are. i'm saying the perception. >> as i said in the earlier segment, the divisions in american politics are about much bigger things at this point. i can't see this moving many voters one way or the other. >> final thought? >> i would have to agree. i know we hate to just continuously agree with each other. yeah, i think it doesn't move that many people because i do think it is different. i think you're right the divisions are too stark. >> it's tough with ron. >> he's right all

wonka's and then the most egregious example, probably as well right after the administration ended, jared kushner the president's son in law, got a two was it $2 billion investment from the saudi fund? so that looks very, very say what you will about the bidens but even if they're guilty of everything we're talking millions this is billions from the saudis. so first i look at these seven years, the 16 race, the discussion about the clinton all the way to say we've been bathing in nepotism and influence peddling and and from the children to the bidens and. now donald trump is enjoying his presidential earnings like bill clinton did. and obama and vice presidential post vice presidential earnings that that biden did. but he's running for while earning money from the saudis have just become numb to this i think we have and i do think know you mentioned the clintons. the clintons foundation hillary was taking in foreign money at time when it was assumed that hillary would be the next president. so yeah, i we've become inured to this. i mean, i went back and looked after reagan, left the white house,

what jared kushner has done may have been legal, the question is should there be an ethics code for presidentialily members here? >> yeah. >> yeah. i think -- >> what would that look like? >> yeah, that's a broader issue. when i was in congress i was the chief author of the stock act and not trading on congressional knowledge. my colleagues hated it because they said i was poor and i was a school teacher, and it was not about that. it was about restoring faith in the system and not supporting me or not believing that we were getting over on something. so, yeah, i think that's probably -- and i think that's a great question, chuck, because it doesn't get at the tit for tat. when you talk about donald trump they talk about hunter biden. one's running for president and not on the ballot. we had the congressional ethics office that sets up. i just think that donald trump violated where you disengage yourself from all financial interests, that didn't happen, and then putting his family in the white house, totally opposet to it. i agree with you, something should happen there. >> governor tim walz, a

and trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, who got a staggering two billion dollar investment from the governmentudi arabia after his father in law made him a key negotiator in that region. where the hunter biden saga will fit into the history of presidential dramas very much remains to be seen. but so, far hunter biden is the only member of the presidents extended family to get his own special counsel investigation. i will talk to george conway about republican -- what republicans are doing here about what attorney general merrick garland is doing here and what all of this means for the 2024 presidential race, coming up next. but we ended up using three times as much and the clothes still weren't as clean as with tide. so we're back with tide, and the clothes are clean again. do 3x the laundry and get a tide clean. it's got to be tide. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. and it could strike at any time. think you're not at risk? wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention. ♪ ♪ ♪

> and tim, before we let you go, michael cohen is raising questions about why mark meadows and jared kushnerre not named in the election indictment, suggesting that they may be cooperating. how likely is that based on your committee's interactions with them? >> well mark meadows sort of cooperated and sort of didn't. you gave us important text messages and refused to appear for deposition after agreeing to. so he has been inconsistent, he was inconsistent frankly in the days surrounding the election in january six and what he would say about the elections. i have no idea what mark meadows is doing. jarred kushner is cooperative to a degree, there were a lot of things that he claimed to have not been involved in or not recall. i wouldn't read anything into who is not included in the indictment. there are certainly more than six coconspirators. this conspiracy stretch broader than that, and just because someone isn't named or unnamed but their actions are describes, it does not mean that they do not have the potential exposure or involvement. >> kim and luke, thank you so much for all of you i

he doesn't want to talk about jared kushner, who brought back $2 billion from saudi arabia to a companyday after the trump administration ended, when there's still blood all over the capitol. >> why do you think a thrice-indicted president is neck and neck with the current president? >> it's a great question. i wish lincoln were around to oppose it to him. it was his political party they take through the mud. it was a pro-immigration party. now, it's become a cult of authoritarian personality. even the candidates running against trump dare not challenge his clear detrails of his constitutional oath. donald trump knew exactly what he was doing. we have lots of testimony about that before the january 6th committee. his own white house counsel told him he was wrong. the attorney general of the united states, the biggest sycophant of the trump administration, said the arguments he was following were b.s. he had to know 60 federal and state courts rejected every argument about electoral fraud and corruption they brought forward. and still, they went ahead. even if he did believe it, like his

and trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, who got a staggering two billion dollar investment from the governmentsaudi arabia after his father in law made him a key negotiator in that region. where the hunter biden saga will fit into the history of presidential dramas very much remains to be seen. but so, far hunter biden is the only member of the presidents extended family to get his own special counsel investigation. i will talk to george conway about republican -- what republicans are doing here about what attorney general merrick garland is doing here and what all of this means for the 2024 presidential race, coming up next. ming up next you also can't leave covered in hair. with bounce pet, you can cuddle and brush that hair off. bounce. it's the sheet. [sneeze] (♪♪) astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. with astepro's unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go! rsv is in for a surprise. meet arexvy. ( ♪♪ ) the first fda-approved rsv vaccine. arexvy is used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rs

after the murder of george floyd, boy genius jared kushner suggested they have kanye west lead a churchervice on the south lawn of the white house. trump wisely rejected that plan in favor of an even worse idea. tear-gassing protesters so he could cross the street to pose with the bible upside-down. he had no sense of any -- well, when he heard his name was rapped, mentioned in a rap song, he said, "see? the blacks like me." and by "blacks," he was primarily referring to these three. [ laughter ] two rappers and a sleepwalker. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i don't know how many books there are about trump now. i think he's got a whole floor at barnes & noble. today, florida governor ron desantis, you see him in his hurricane boots the other day? [ laughter ] yeah. i guess he got too fat for the rest of his stormtrooper costume. [ laughter ] you're not allowed to pass a "don't say gay" bill then show up in public dressed like nancy sinatra. [ laughter and applause ] ron got a visit by president biden to tour the destruction left by hurricane ian. they promised no politics. the president went

years and when i started doing at-home shows for the first time, i was so pale i looked like jared kushner'si didn't even know what a ring light was. when they finally sent me one, i thought it was a light-up toilet seat i was like, "oh, this is cool. good news kids, you can [ bleep ] in the dark now. don't wake up daddy anymore. oh, you're going to love it. it's like peeing into yankee stadium from a hot air balloon." [ laughter ] but lake is a slick tv personality which is why she's got so much sway with trump's maga base. and president obama made note of that during a trip to arizona on wednesday to campaign for the democratic nominee for govern katie hobbs. obama pointed out something we should know from recent experience just because you know someone from tv doesn't mean they'll be a good elected official. >> here in arizona, there's no question that katie hobbs' opponent, she's good in front of the camera because she's been doing it for a long time listen, if we hadn't just elected somebody whose main qualification was being on tv, you could see maybe giving it a shot what's the worst

talk about family members of the president who are doing things that impact the country, i think jared kushnernd his family are much more of a problem for the president during the trump administration than hunter biden is for joe biden based on something that he did as a private citizen. >> both of those mean you need to take a closer lens at how this looks to the american people and what kind of parameters we have just in general. >> looks bad generally and can be objective in that and say it doesn't look great. >> neither one compared to a former president of the united states -- >> i agree. >> wh >> stay with us. >>> all right. we have this coming up -- cameras are not allowed in federal court, but house democrats and trump's own attorney are pushing for his trial to be televised. could the judge make an exception? >>> plus, republican presidential candidates focussing their attacks on vice president kamala harris. we have new reporting on the strategy ahead. generalized d myasthenia gravis made my life a lot harder. but the picture starteted changing when i started on vyvgart. vyvgart is f

donald trump hired jared kushner who could not get a permanent security clearance because of his affiliationsbusiness dealers. he was in the white house. this isn't about -- let's have some parity here -- >> jamal, is hunter biden in the white house? >> he was not in the white house? why are we having this conversation? >> was he living in the white house? >> did you want to have a -- >> bingo, bingo -- >> let's -- hold on here. because there is a way to say that you have questions about what president biden knew and people have asked those questions, of course you can look at his past comments there, scott, but hunter biden doesn't have a taxpayer funded job. there are different elements in the situation here, in the sense. to say when [inaudible] >> he spent copious of time in the white house. he will [inaudible] >> was my point. >> he wasn't negotiating middle east peace. and then raising money and -- >> having this much influence over his father. i don't think that anyone buys. that >> kushner was -- and then -- >> jamele sevens, scott jennings, thank you for that robust conversation. i w

and i think jared kushner, maybe one of those people because would leak out of his testimony he saidt trump knew that that the board that lost the election. so these are the things that will probably come up in trial. the only gave a little tidbits enough. 2, to form the narrative intent. now, the other intent, it's going to be whether or not relied on the advice of counsel and that's going to be something that. the new scene is lawyers talk about for the past few days. they've been discussing it. it's all it's like what we have an ironclad defense. we have john eastman's memo and etcetera, etcetera. well. the fact that just that unfortunately for my profession lawyers get get in trouble all the time for giving bad legal advice or 4 or for being accessory to like a mob boss or to a crime. and you just can't say that. i think one movie to theory in the face everybody else telling me that i'm wrong wrong, it's acted reasonably rely on that. so there's there's a reasonable test for that for that. lines for his state of mind that i'm sure they're going to be dealing with. as a defense an