brian: jared, just we wanted to get things done. i know you don't want to get in the back and forth, questions that keep coming up on the sunday shows, number one where is the national strategy, that's from governor newsome on 60 minutes and amy klobuchar on morning shows and number 2 if you answer that, number 2, why did you guys collapse the pandemic office when you guys took over possibly to save money, do you want to answer both of them? >> sure. pandemic office, that was nsc situation but lots of parts of the government responsible for that and all of those have been functioning. again, we are on the other side of the medical aspect of this and i think that we have aleaved all the different milestones that are needed. the government, the federal government rose to the challenge and this is great success story and i think that that's really, you know, what needs to be told and in terms of the national strategy that you mentioned with governor newsom, look, we've been very busy doing, we released the strategy document earlier thi

my thanks to jared and 50.orrow and friday if you want to see 50 here on the beat with ari melbourne. and keep it right here on msnbc. >>> good evening. i'm steven kerr knack y -- i' st steve kernacki in new york. at this hour, there are more than 1 million confirmed cases of the virus in this country. and more than 60,000 americans have died at the white house today president trump seemed to address the testing question differently than he did yesterday. >> you are saying you are confident you can surpass 5 million tests per day? that --

even jared from subway is like, this jared gives me the creeps. what was i talking about? oh, yes, the virus. the idea that jared thinks things are going great is nuts. this virus has now killed more americans than the vietnam war. and donald trump has the distinction of not helping much with either. but trump, for once, was not the dope of the day today. that honor went to mike pence, who is usually such a good boy, but has had to defend himself because he opted not to wear a mask to the mayo clinic. >> since i don't have the coronavirus, i thought it would be a good opportunity to be here, to speak to these incredible personnel and look them in the eye and say thank you. >> jimmy: he didn't want to wear a mask, because he wanted to look them in the eye and say thank you. what kind of a mask was he planning to wear? spider man? it's a respiratory mask. it's not supposed to go over your eyes. it goes over your nose and mouth. and, of course, the real reason he didn't wear a mask is because his boss won't wear a mask. and mike pence is nothing if not deferential. he's not a

can't be at whim of whether you're friends with jared kushner. just like maggie was describing, it's not he's just in there, no big deal, it's incredibly disruptive. you want to be able to move stuff as quickly as possible because one, certain states need it first, two, you're going to know what you run out of. we have no idea because the white house has decided and jared kushner has decided to be operational. that's the last place you want -- where you want operational decisions being made. >> maggie, do you have a sense of white house, how fully on board is the president -- he seemed to accept the 100,000 to 240,000 figure and promote that in that chart. but at the same time not asking or even publicly suggesting that governors should have -- there should be nationwide stay-at-home orders, it does raise the question of does he really believe what the scientific experts on his task force are saying. >> anderson, i think you've seen the president take a day to day approach with this, as he has with almost everything else about his presidency, say

you needed someone to step in that void, and that was jared kushner. to go to hhs, go to fema, to cut through red tape, bring people together. look, he doesn't have an expertise in this. he's not a health expert. he has the ear of the president so when agency officials hear from him they believe they're hearing from the president. that could be good or bad. there are some complaints at fema when the president hears from a governor or a couple of governors they didn't get these supplies or want these supplies and has jared kushner call them and say go ahead and ship them. there's a concern on a part of fema whether or not this is a national prioritization, supplies are being sent to the right place at the right time based on the whole picture than a phone call. on the other hand, of course n the absence of anyone taking on this role, kushner was kind of able to fill a void. mark meadows has arrived and will play an active role. it's interesting to see him at that briefing yesterday. we don't see him in public very often. the fact that he came out and de

that can't be at the whim of whether you're friends with jared kushner. and so just like maggie was describing, it's -- it's -- it's not like a, you know, he's just in there and it's no big deal. it's actually incredibly disruptive because you want to be able to move stuff as quickly as possible because, one, certain states need it first. but, two, then you're going to know what you run out of. that's the problem. we have no idea because the white house has decided, and jared kushner has decided, to be operational. that's like the last place that you want -- where you want operational decisions being made. >> magg maggie, i mean, do you a sense much what is happening behind the scenes at the white house? i mean, how fully on board is the president to -- i mean, he seemed to, you know, accept the 100,000 to 240,000 figure and promote that and that chart. but, at the same time, not asking or at least even publicly suggesting that governors should have -- that there should be nationwide stay-at-home orders. it does raise the question of does he really believ

jared kushner playing a critical role on behalf of the president. he is a senior adviser to the president and also his son-in-law. what are you learning about the exact role jared kushner is playing? >> one of the characteristics throughout his business career and administration is that he tends to, when the chips are down, rely on a close circle of people, family, long time close friends. in that scenario, given what the country is going through right now, it was inevitable that jared kushner who has been given everything from solving middle east peace to i don't know how many other assignments, he has a lot of confidence in himself, whether justified or not. he is throwing his weight around within the task force trying to get things done. he said it there, the president brought me in, i was told they needed n-95 masks so i called the head of the hospital. doctors, medical workers, governors, mayors have been begging for that. so just because jared kushner walks on the scene and gets a piece of information from a friend of the president -- >> white

then jared kushner says the national stockpile is our stockpile, not the states'. even republican senators disagree with that. cory gardner said today he didn't know what kushner meant by that because the stockpile belongs to everyone, it belongs to these states. that's its purpose, is to help back these states up when they need it. >> exactly. >> so much like with the guidance about the stay-at-home orders, it's really a way for the president to be able to leave this responsibility up to the states. so if they don't have what they need then it can fall on the the states' shoulders. if they don't issue these stay-at-home orders then it falls on the states. and it's notable, don, given the fact that the president has said he is a war time president, yet he is very often as we've seen on occasions deferring to states on matters like this. >> where would the stockpile go to? family member and friends? when he says ours, i don't understand? aren't states part of the united states? >> the whole point of having the stockpile, don. it's the whole point of having it. >> i

do you have anything, jared? >> it's funny you should mention 50 cent, because i thought given recent increases in inflation, i thought his name was now 64 cent. but i don't know. maybe i'll have to good back and recalculate that. >> well -- i don't have anything. you know what it is? every time you don't deliver by which i mean you do deliver. and i can see why you'd be a great lecturer, economics teacher. >> if you just want to do the next cycle of me telling economic joke, feel free to call up and we'll let it roll. i'll bet michelle and the doctor have a few. >> i'm not going to put them on the spot. because they can't do it the way you do it. but i do feel that we all need our levity where we can take it. >> hey, hey, wait a second. do you know the definition of a keynesian economist in washington right now? it's a republican in the middle of a recession with a republican in the white house. that's what makes a keynesian economist today, if you think about it. because back when we were doing that stuff, back

i think jared may know that. the problem jared is having is some of the things he said was nonsensical. for instance talking about the national stock pile saying it wasn't really meant to go to the states in need. it was meant for the federal government. i can't contemplate when you would use the national stock pile ventilators for some sort of broad federal but not state by state use. he's playing catch up and this brings us to the larger point which i think is the underlying issue which has been the administration's response. one, they're playing catch up and two they're only thinking one day or one news cycle ahead. the stuff they should be doing a month ago they're just getting around to and the results are cataclysmic. >> doc, i have a rather ghoulish question i must ask you. we're asking experts like you for things like peak dates. we know they're coming. reference my first question. are we looking at two -- will the peak date for known cases be different than the peak date for deaths in this country? >> i

the president's son-in-law and senior advisor jared kushner. i want you to listen to what he said last night about the strategic national stockpile. >> the notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. it's not supposed to be state stockpiles that they then use. so we are encouraging the states to make sure they're assessing the needs, they're getting the data from their local -- local situations. and then trying to fill it with the supplies that we've given them. >> boy. that is absolutely not true that the strategic national stockpile is just for the federal government. and what's up with kushner calling it our stockpile? it's our stockpile. it belongs to the people of the united states. and the proof of that comes from our own fact checker daniel dale. i want you to listen to what he said after kushner made that totally false statement last night. >> daniel, kushner also said today that the strategic national stockpile is not for states to use. what is the truth here? >> i'm on the website, right now, staring at my c

i think jared might actually know that. the problem jared is having is some of the stuff he said today was nonsensical, for instance talking about the national stockpile by saying it wasn't really meant to go to the states in need. it was meant for the use of the federal government. well, i can't really contemplate a scenario in which you would use the national stockpile's ventilators for some sort of broad federal use but not state by state use. it doesn't make much sense. so he's playing catchup, and this brings us to the larger point, which i think is the underlying issue which has colored basically the entirety of the administration's response. one, they're playing catchup. and two, they're only thinking one day or one news cycle ahead. the stuff they should have been doing a month ago they're just getting around to, and the results are cataclysmic. >> and sam, all available evidence is the president comes offstage as he would put it. he talked about the viewing audience today, talked about his facebook audience yesterd

. >>> president trump son-in-law jared kushner has been enlisted to help manage this pandemic responsener who has no background in medicine has the full confidence of president trump which whom he confers multiple times a day. trump expressing frustration with other leaders of agencies who have experience in these issues. cu kushner facing criticism for this statement yesterday about the strategic stockpile. >> it's supposed to be our stockpile. it's not suppose tods be state stockpiles they use. we are encouraging the states to make sure they are assessing the needs and getting data from their local situations and trying to fill it with the supplies we have given them. >> that is false. he didn't know what he was talking about. you can go to the public health emergency page that is part of the trump administration federal oversight that states flatly when state local, tribal request assistance the stockpile ensure the right medicines and is up shines go to those and need them. trump administration trying to change the language on that website after it was pointed out by a journalist.

joy viewer jared kushner. may recall my viral tweet saying the exact same thing recently plus reiterating it on this show, but jared, friend, i think you might have misunderstood me. i wasn't talking about governors. most of them are doing the right thing although some of the trumpier ones, i was talking about your father-in-law but that wasn't even jared's worst moment this week. note his use of the word ours. >> the notion of the federal stock pile was supposed to be our stock pile, it's not supposed to be state stock piles that they would use so they encourage the state to assess the needs, they're getting the data from their local situations and then trying to fill it with the supplies that we've given them. >> joining me now is dr. ka vita patel. and david jonston, journalist and author of "it's even worse than you think" and kimberly atkins. thank you all for being here. let me note kavita, to start with you first, dr. patel, the way this is supposed to work is that the national stock pile belongs to --

jared, great to see you. you so much for making time for us on the sunday evening. >> nice to be with you. >> all right. let me just start right there with that ventilator issue, what made you so confident right in the heat of the battle when things were really looking very bad to be so confident in your own projections. >> wouldn't say necessarily we are confident, we were just trying to put together the best information we have. what we saw was you had a lot of different models that people were putting out and a lot of different projections. what we try to do at the white house was bring a lot of data scientists and economists and try to figure out how do we gather the data of what was actually out there. they were showing us we would be at a hundred and 30,000 ventilators short by april 1 so we were trying to make the 20000 we had go the best way forward. then we sent them out about 96 hours ahead. we also use the defense production act to stimulate the supply. last year they produced about 30,000 ventilat

i'm jared trade glad you could join me there are now more than 300000 confirmed cases of corona virus in the u.s. more than anywhere else in the world in hard hit regions like new york state in california medical supplies of started to run large the death toll already stands at over 8000 speaking to the american public on saturday president donald trump warned that the coming weeks would likely see that number climb even higher this would be probably the toughest week between this week and next week. they'll be a lot of death unfortunately but a lot less dead than if this wasn't done but there will be death. we're looking for an obvious focus and the hardest hit regions some of them are obvious and some aren't so obvious they spring up they come and they. they hit you like you got hit by a club that was donald trump speaking to the american people a short while ago with a strong warning that things will get worse before they get better. some more on this let's bring in journalist. in new york city good to see look the diocese in is continuing in new york state bring us up to speed on

did jared kushner misspeak yesterday? >> he used the word "hour -- "our." the states, to the best of your knowledge and our knowledge is part of the country. we are helping states all over the country. we want to keep some, because when you hit that surge, we have to have the flexibility to take those ventilators and bring them to louisiana, new york -- >> but you are going to use them -- >> of course. we are not going to use them anywhere else, john. we want the flexibility. we don't know when the surge is coming, but it's coming soon and will be big. some areas won't have it. some areas will be pleasantly surprised. you look at the chart. states i thought may have been a disaster, they have done a good job. some states are really troubled. but you don't know. we have great flexibility. i would have preferred giving them all out, but when we have a surge we can't get them back because it's tough to take them back. we have flexibility. it could be new york or louisiana. new jersey is rough and they have done a good job there. go ahead. >> the question is ab

my special thanks to susan and jared for joining us. >> thank you. >> hello. >> jared, let me start with not what everyone is going through now, but you are such an extraordinary story. what did you struggle with in isolation and solitary confinement and what insights, if any, do you draw from it? >> well, thank you, ari, again, for having me on, but it's like you opened up the segment and say, you know, it pales in comparison to people who are incarcerated and don't have anyone around them, but i will say this. communication is what got me through that. i had an auntie that would send me bible verses, you know, different ways to motivate me and she told me one thing that stuck with me, she said, look. in a difficult time like this, you have to tell yourself that each day, you have the opportunity to get out the next. and it was a healthy way for me to cope with it. and i also did this, as well. i took the opportunity, with the time that i was there, to invest in myself, to go back and re-evaluate myself, re-evaluate goals and to psychologically remove myself from the isolation, although

and today you hear from jared kushner. today we hear from the rear admiral. today we hear from peter navarro. we don't hear from peter gainer, the fema chair. just like there seems to be some questions about the supply chain that the rear admiral was about a bit uncomfortable talking about. there seems to still be questions about who is in charge here. >> and i think you saw that on display, chuck, in the way that you just laid out. the fact that we have heard from jared kushner, peter navarro talking about the supply chain. and we know based on our reporting that jared kushner has been running what has been described by some as this sort of shadow task force that has for some at least who are working on this crisis created some confusion. now we'll look to see if he gets questions about that. but i think, and you and i were talking about this last night, the question remains who is in charge of the supply chain. should bit fema or should it be headed by the military, as some people are calling for? i'd also point out, chuck, essentially what peter navarro wa

i think that that's really what needs to be told. >> noted public health expert, jared kushner, which is a good time to bring in my colleague and friend nicolle wallace, host of "deadline white house." over to you. >> the problem this white house has is that it is increasingly out of step with how the country fee feels. i've been inside white houses that lost touch with the public, namely around the war in iraq and the war on terror. more than any setback in the war in iraq, it was saying that people weren't experiencing. jared kushner, not only did he not do the president he serves any help with that spin, he may have further damaged this white house's biggest political problem which is a credibility problem. we're going to get into the polls this afternoon. but the public is behind their governors and they're behind staying at home until there are more medical innovations. so jared kushner's outlook not reflecting how americans feel about the handling does more larm than good. at this point, i cannot imagine that was his intention. as i was saying, a new npr/pbs news hour maris poll

consider that as you listen to this just this morning on fox news from jared kushner. >> we're on the other side of the medical aspect of this, and i think that we've achieved all the different milestones that are needed. so the government, federal government rose to the challenge and this is a great success story. i think what you'll see in may as the states are reopening now is may will be a transition month. i think you'll see by june a lot of the country should be back to normal and the hope is by july the country's really rocking again. >> there was also this. two very different versions of what's in store for our nation's economy and the 26 million people that we know of that have filed after losing their jobs. >> i think the economy is going to suffer through very bad numbers. it's going to sink further. the contraction in the second quarter's going to be much deeper than the first quarter. the unemployment rate's going to go up quite a bit. >> i think there's a tremendous feeling of optimism in this country. but it's a very transitional period. i think it's going to do good. b

in an effort to prepare for those projections, colorado's democratic governor jared polis wanted more in his state and because donald trump told the states to fend for themselves, the governor purchased 500 ventilators from a private company then the trump administration blocked the order. fema took the ventilators for itself. governor described the infuriating situation. >> be in or out, folks. that's my message. either you're buying them and providing to the states and letting us know what we'll get and when or stay out and let us buy them. >> on wednesday, president trump announced the federal government would be sending 100 ventilators republican senator cory gardner, a vulnerable incumbent up for reelection in november. colorado is still 400 ventilators short of the "the denver post" made it a scathing editorial saying donald trump is treating life-saving medical equipment as emoluments to dole out as favors to loyalists. it's the most unimaginable form of corruption playing political games with lives. for the good of this nation which should be a time of unity, he must stop. we

joining me now is jeff cook and dan hansen grooming jared black man. the story, you saved your businesses from going belly up and how did you connect in mind mildred businesses to save them. >> josh and i have been friends for five years and we teamed up on a whole bunch of different things and i just got a text from him one day and he said you know any bottle suppliers that are really trustworthy and can get us some bottles click and one thing led to another and that afternoon i sent him like six labels, bottles had been ordered, labels went to the printer the next day and was ready for production. liz: talk about on your end what you thought as you call up this brilliant businessman and thinking he might know somebody and before you know it it is actually happening. >> jared and i have really cultivated a relationship over the last five years and if i knew there were some of the i could: for great project to help her community and to help kalamazoo, he would jump right on board to help. so i took advantage of that and called him an inside about 72 ho

>> jared doesn't know what the hell he is talking b. he probably got lost going through the slides on the briefings in washington. he doesn't know what he's talking about. that is the second lie. why would you go change something overnight to meet in this statement at a podium. that's very -- i can't use the right word, but that's not good. >> you ran the katrina task force in 2005, certainly a massive operation in its own right. but this unique situation, 50 states needing supplies at the same time. what can the government do, if anything, to catch up and get on top of this? >> well, yeah, this is a lot bigger. it's a lot bigger mission also for fema. where the entire united states is engaged in this disaster. the normal flow of equipment that you need as backup during a disaster would be backup through the fema logistics director to the states either by ordering it directly from producers or coming out of the national stockpile, if it's medical, or out of the war stocks out of the defense logistics agency. that is the plan. but we cer

and hospitals that don't require them at this time will be deployed to new york city and as you know jared new york city 65 percent of the coded 1000 cases are here in the city so they are certainly going to need those ventilators and the mayor has said he needs about 25023000 this week alone so the 500 will certainly help but there's a dire need there so that's the situation with regard to the ventilators mass shortage not just here but across the country and to some staggering numbers that state is now the u.s. at the center of the coronavirus how is the situation in the rest of the united states. yeah i mean all eyes on new york right now least americanizing this is the epicenter as you mentioned facing that 1st wave of infection we washed over 500-5600 people already but there are certainly concerns when we look at other cities and with regard to the dangers acceleration when it comes to the number of cases particularly new orleans and destroy and it's extra concerning because these states these cities rather are home to vulnerable communities people living under the poverty line in ne

my thanks to jared and 50. join us tomorrow and friday if you want to see 50 here on the beat with ari melbourne. and keep it right here on msnbc. >>> good evening. i'm steven kerr knack y -- i' st steve kernacki in new york. at this hour, there are more than 1 million confirmed cases of the virus in this country. and more than 60,000 americans have died at the white house today president trump seemed to address the testing question differently than he did yesterday. >> you are saying you are confident you can surpass 5 million tests per day? that -- >> we are going to be there very soon. if you look at the numbers it could be that we are getting very close. >> and they said 5 million? well, we will be there. but i didn't say it. i didn't say it. somebody came out with a report saying 5 million. it sounds like a lot. sure it would be nice. and we will be there. but again, we didn't say it. who said sit a report. i heard the 5 million is totally unnecessary. that doesn't mean we are not going to hit it pretty ea

to those press briefings with the president who said basically everybody is in it for themselves, jaredd we have a stockpile and the state haves to deal with their stuff so colorado took the president at face value and ordered its own ventilators. >> yeah, well, it's hard to imagine that this is the reality that we face. give governor polis a lot of credit and colorado is grateful for the 100 ventilators we got but what is the process by which you get measured? when i was governor, we had the federal government was careful and made sure that population and infection rates and, you know, overall need would be the criteria by which, you know, necessary supplies that you don't have enough of, that's how they would be circulated and distributed. that's obviously not happening if you're using them as political favors. >> governor, talk to me about how you think this went down because governor polis orders these through a private company and fema takes the order for itself and apparently, corey gardener has made a request for some and the president now as a courtesy to corey gardener lets thi

and you can kind of bet that jared kushner, his business is going to see some of that. he's going to personally see that and you can bet that the president's family will, too. >> governor, your thoughts on this. there's all of this public shaming right now about who is taking some of this government money. but you're a former governor. the government decides the rules on these stimulus packages. aren't they the ones to blame?

probably not the message that jared kushner was expecting to put out there. but you know, in a lot of ways they're hiding in plain sight a lot of the goals that they have here politically separate from the very big policy personal, economic, and humanitarian crisis that's going on right now. >> yeah, you say hiding in plain sight. i say it's just really transparent. we're saying the same thing. >> that's what i mean, yeah. >> so daniel, kushner said the strategic national stockpile is not for states to use. what is the truth here? >> i'm on the website right now staring at my computer screen of the strategic national stockpile, and this is what it says, don, on its first page. this is the intro, the stockpile is a large supply of life saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency severe enough to cause local supplies to run out. and then it goes on to say, when state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get

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there's a headline, jared kushner will get us all killed. i thought it was completely and totally unfair. as a student of public opinion, do these daily jousts and sometimes attacks on journal u.s.es, are they helping president trump with anybody other than the base that he has that already despiewzs the media? >> well, two things we know from polls, one is up until this moment the president's job approval had been incredibly stable, and he's been fighting with reporters like this since the moment he decided he was running for president. he's been fighting with reporters like this his entire career. so in some sense, this is baked into how people think about president trump already: the second thing is when people are asked approve or disprove of how different agencies have handled this, the president does poll better than the media rut large. where i think this is potentially problematic for the president is when you realize this moment so big that it could dislodge that previously stagnant public opinion. people came into this crew sis thi

trump and his son-in-law jared kushner. on what planet is jared kushner put in charge of the white house's response to the coronavirus? this is a man who's failed at everything he's touched. you and i have discussed him many times before on your show. he failed at trying to run a new york newspaper, failed at the property business that his criminal father gifted to him. failed at trying to bring peace to the middle east, and now failing at trying to handle this major public health crisis, which he's not qualified to handle. you mentioned the quote from him and donald trump saying these are our ventilators. this is the federal government stockpile, this is for ourselves, whoch. who is the us, who is the ourselves? if the federal government doesn't stand up for the 50 states in the united states, who does it stand up for? it's bizarre at the level of incompetence, indifference, completely crazy. >> i don't know why you're selling the deal of the century mideast deal down already, we haven't given it a chance. dr. lip p y roy,

and you have jared kushner who says he is running that. and he's the president's troubleshooter and does lack a background with procurement or logistics or supply chain management. three people who are in charge on the platform. >> of course the question it raises is whether they are in fact fixing it. let's step back and remember four years ago when trump was running for president. bush ran the republican primary against him said you're a chaos candidate and you will be a chaos president. we have seen chaos during the first three years of the trump administration and what you have to wonder is that efb now when the stakes are high, economically for life and death. 100,000 americans now projected in a best case to lose their lives. are we seeing chaos here? we have had hhs in charge of the effort. then vice president pence. then fema injected now jared kushner saying the president talked to one of his friend on the phone about the new york and said they are short of n 95 masks so i called the head of a hospital and now i'm shipping him mas

jared? >> thank you, mr. vice presidentability thank you for your leadership on the task force. when the vice president asked me to help on the task force with different tasks i asked the president what he expected from the tack force around i how i could best serve him and the task force. what the president asked all the recommendations that we make based on data. he wanted us to make sure we were rigorous studying data, collecting data. a lot of things in this country were happening very quickly. we wanted to make sure we were updating our models and make sure we were making informed decisions and informed recommendations to him based on the data we were able to collect and put together. the president wanted to make sure we had the best people doing the best jobs and making sure we had the right people focused on all the things that needed to happen to make sure we can deliver in these unusual times for the american people. the president also instructed me to make sure that i break down every barrier needed to make sure that the teams can succeed. this is an effort where the g

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we have more than 10,000, jared what do we have? more than 10,000 in the stockpile. >> 10,000 an growing every day. we are a geet manager in than we're sending out. president trump: we'll be able to help other countries which is a good thing. not only ally bus countries that need help. a lot of countries need help. reporter: on the food supply chain is there anything your scradmrgs is doing or might be doing in the future to make sure that there's enough meat supplies? president trump: we're working with tyson. reporter: and export -- president trump: we're going to sign an executive order today and that'll solve any liability problems where they had certain liability problems and we'll be in very good shape. we're working with tyson, one of the big companies in that world. we always work with the farmers. there's plenty of supply. plenty of, as you know, plenty of supply. it's distribution and we will probably have that today solved. it was a very unique circumstance because of liability. reporter: can you clarify what your intelli

did jared kushner misspeak? >> he didn't misspeak. he used the word "our." ours, preferring to our country. the states to best of my jbest f your knowledge are a part of our country. we are taking what's in the federal stockpile and we're helping states all over the country. but we also want to keep some because when the surge comes, when you hit the peaks, we have to have the flexibility to take those ventilators and bring them to louisiana, new york, detroit, different places. that's all. we're not using them anywhere else. we're not going to be using them, john, anywhere else. but we want the flexibility. because we don't even know when the surge is coming, but it's coming soon and it's goings to be big. and some areas won't have it. some areas will be pleasantly surprised. just like we've been. you look at the chart. states that i thought would have been maybe a disaster turned out to be really they've done a great job. some states are really troubled. but you don't know. you don't know. we have great flexibility. i would have preferred giving them all o

but again, how is this task force going to work with jared kushner, with the vice president? the other thing, chuck, is that some of the people who are on this task force are on the vice president's task force. for example, we anticipate larry kudlow, that steven mnuchin are going to be a part of this task force. so what does that mean in essence about the work that they're doing with the vice president? we, by all account, and based on all of my conversations over the past several days, it is vice president mike pence who still has the lead when it comes to handling this crisis. so how are they going to fit together? the question is will president trump explain that when he comes to the podium? just days ago, chuck, when i was asking people who were supposed to be on this task force about how it was all going work, they were still scratching their heads about how it was going to fit together. so have they figured it out? we know that they've been working on the details. have they hammered out all of those fine points yet? it's not clear. >> all right. i have to pause here a

is it jared and ivanka and peter navarro and steven mnuchin? who else?els like the presidency right now is unmatched for the crisis at hand. >> mika, to build on my colleague's excellent reporting about the timeline, you now see in the white house pervasive wishfulness about the power and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and other drugs that have yet to be formally and fully approved for use with the coronavirus by the food and drug administration. and you have a wishfulness that this situation will turn around. that was a trait throughout the white house in recent weeks, and it continues to be a trait in the white house. when you ask about the inner circle, it is clear to me, based on my reporting, that peter navarro, more than anyone now, whether it's on usualing th urging the president to take a position on something that's different than dr. fauci, or when it comes to the defense production act, nudging corporations, sometimes pushing corporations to do what the white house wants, that shar nat the center. jared kushner is there and being a liaison to

is it the president's son-in-law, jared kushner? laila santiago is out front. >> the states have been told you're on your own, it's the wild, wild west. >> we are running dangerously low on ppe. >> those supplies are being diverted by the federal government. >> literally a month after president trump declared covid-19 a national emergency, states are still sounding the alarm on supply shortages. and there's another frustration mounting amongst states, understanding who's taking charge of the federal response. fema has taken the lead coordinating role but with fema's administrator pete gainer largely out of the public view, one congressional aide tells cnn no one really knows who's in charge, who's making decisions. >> when we were briefing the president earlier, he asked me to come out and talk a little bit. >> reporter: trump's senior adviser jared kushner has taken a more senior role. at times unapologetically. >> i got a call from the president that he was wearing from his friends in new york that the new york public hospital sys