. >> on the court with michael steele and jarod smith, charles asked smith why he became republican in>> i saw that despite who was president, clearly i came up with the riots looking the same. i was like, what the republican party don't have is someone with my world view. i went out on this whole mission to like, look, if it's a republican president, we need someone to talk to him. >> are you still on the trump train? >> i'm still on -- yes, honestly. when it comes to reforming the criminal justice system. the conservatives that were against justice reform, they wouldn't have done if it wasn't for president trump. >> how do you then square your support for a man who says at a rally, maybe the police need to rough them up a little bit more . maybe they need to be more aggressive. but then when that candidate goes out in front of an entire nation of folks and says that, how do you then go, this is my guy? >> it makes my job a lot harder, i tell you. that especially working with the black community. let's take charlottesville, for example. right after that, he had this meeting with senat