okay, geral, jaron, gerald on that on that note, i agree with you. okay, let me, let me go to look here, get everybody in the mix here. a look at me because the nato will not discuss russia. security guarantees as reason why we're in this mess and the 1st place, okay? and as long as they continue to do that, russia will do well, unilaterally make its own decisions. if it doesn't happen to interlocutor, then it will make its decisions on its own and what it will not care what the west says whatsoever. because the west really can't do anything about it. and that's what we've learned. luke and brussels go ahead. while the responsibility of the major is over, well, of course in the conflict since day one and done of course we follow america and we should, you should dissociate from america on this america. it once war rush, we don't, we should we europeans? oh, so the victims half is concrete on. so we need to find a p strategy and we should look, for example, in turkey. we should look at hungary, countries where the leaders are responsible. people say,