my name is jarrod faulkner. my father was with the recreation and park kept for -- department for many years strit from world war ii through the year he retired. i was inculcated in a lot of this stuff in the traditions of rec and park. basically golden gate park was originally intended to be a very rural in character. it was an outgrowth of the teachings of frederick law ohmstead who -- olmstead who designed central park. the western side of the park particularly was supposed to be kept rural. what's been proposed in this case with the astroturf and everything else is turning everything on its head. i know my father wouldn't have approved of it. jack spring wouldn't have. virtually any of people -- people around rec and park over the years would disapprove of this. there are several issues involved. first of all as to endangered species, the san francisco garter snake which is very endangered and the red leg frog, another very indangered creature, they're particularly here for san francisco and the northern pen