joining me this week for the duration of the show, friend and journalist jasmine birtles.asmine. thank you as always, jasmine. thank you. do you feel that there's something rotten somewhere that we've lost the love of life? >> yes , yes, i agree so much. >> yes, yes, i agree so much. and you know, i was picking up some of the biblical references there because i do feel that we are in a time of revelation. and as i listen to you talking about the human and saving the human, my sense of saving the human is getting it back into the divine. i think when we separated ourselves and our sense of life, ourselves and our sense of life, our sense of humanity from divinity, then we set ourselves on a path of destruction and darkness. i'm thinking, you know , darkness. i'm thinking, you know, vaclav havel, said once that when a nation loses guard, it vaclav havel, said once that when a n finds itself under this mega machinery. of course , he was in machinery. of course, he was in a communist regime, so he knew about mega machinery, but it he was saying that at that time. and now man i