jason baldwin, i knew a great deal better.esse was someone we would see around somewhere. >> why did you think he was doing this? >> it's hard to say. i think part of it was just prompting by the police. part of it may have been he thaugts he was going to get something out of it. it's hard to say. >> what is the worst moment for you? >> it's hard to say i am want to say there were no worse moments. every single moment was worse than the last one. it doesn't ever stop. you know, you think the moment you're arrested, this's the worst moment. you think the moment you're in the troubial, that's the worst moment. you think the moment you're sentenced to death, that's the worst moment. your first execution day rolls around, that's the worst. it just gets worse and worse and worse. it's like a train that doesn't stop. it just keeps picking up speed and gets worse and worse and worse. >> very few people can understand what you've been through. one of them is going to join us after this break and he's one of the other members of the me