also with me is jason beardsly, national director of the association of the u.s. navy. he is a former green beret master sergeant and jay gray will join me from poland in just a few moments. matt, diplomatic talks went nowhere overnight. those humanitarian corridors, it would seem as if the majority aren't necessarily holding, russian troops pushing through just west of kyiv, along with other towns northwest of the capitol. take us through what else is happening right now where you are. >> reporter: i think the best way to look at this is three axis of attack. the most successful and the most advanced one is coming out of crimea to the south. now, the crimean one is falling into the same pattern that we've been seeing in the north, which is kind of like a siege around that city of mariupol. the only city that's really fallen is the city of kherson, which is now basically occupied. it's the only occupied city in all of ukraine. and now the russians are entering, as you said, a troubling new phase of this war and it's not new for other russian invasions. we've seen it bef

i want to bring in national security sper jason beardsly, the director for the association of u.s. y special operations. hi, jason. so i'm curious what you think after a month of fighting, which side do you think is winning? >> well, this is, pamela, been an interesting conflict. we've seen from the beginning that the ukrainian forces have just outmaneuvered, outgunned and outtacticed the russian military. the russian military also has slowed down. they have a lot of dessert attentions. attacked in the spring there is a lot of mud. the tires look like they are in poor condition. you've seen great reporting from internet sleuths that have shown us the problems of logistic supplies the russian forces were facing. on top that they are oukraine is defending where the russians are off ending. which is so much tougher. it's a 3 lyn 1 ratio if you are attacking a defensive place. not only that but losing the game on fuel, food, comfort and tactics all around. it's been an interesting story. but you had the parliament member on earlier, the rada members and she makes a great point. ukraine

nbc's intelligence ken delaney is behind this reporting and we're joined by jason beardsly, nationalr of the association of the u.s. navy. ken, you laid out that list in your reporting. you also drill into a very specific kind of drone that the biden administration is considering providing to ukraine. what more can you tell us about that? >> that's right, craig. two congressional officials with knowledge of the matter told us the biden administration is considering providing ukraine with switch blade loitering munitions. they're technically called loitering missiles. they have the bomb inside the device and can be launched as far as 50 miles away from a target and strike with deadly accuracy. some experts these could be a game changer in ukraine. we got a demonstration as you're seeing on the screen of the smaller version known as the switch blade 300 which is designed to target personnel in precise strikes. there's a larger one they weren't allowed to show us, the 600, that could blow up tanks and armored vehicles. the thing is they are really small and portable and they can be guid