for more let's bring in jason burke a journalist for the guardian newspaper who has been covering this story from johannesburg welcome to you jason i want to talk first about his claim that he needs to be told what he's done wrong at this point is the a.n.c. under any obligation to do so. well not formally this is an internal a.n.c. process. himself as a victim of some kind of. unsubstantiated allegations of wrongdoing now i mean those sources say so the claim rather is not really going to be seen as very credible as south africa everybody here is aware of how bad unemployment is how the economy has been flat lining since he took how crime has been rising hosers and other issues and of course everybody's aware of the corruption allegations that have been swirling around him and have been substantiated against people who are very close to him so the who trail of himself as a victim of some kind of. process within the party is unlikely to convince very many people so the next step now is this no confidence vote in the parliament and that's what the a.n.c. wants to move ahead with how are

let's discuss this watershed moment where for jason burke who is a journalist for the guardian newspaper he's covering the story from johannesburg welcome to day w. does jacob zuma have a point despite the the whiff of corruption swirling around him for years he's been convicted of nothing and the amc hard disk haven't demonstrated he's breached any event rules he seems only guilty of being an electrolyte ability well yes and no i mean the fact that he's an electrolyte abilities based on pretty solid reasons i hasten to make a liability because in the nine years he's been running the country all the major indicators for unemployment crime infrastructure economy have been degrading pretty steadily so the last three or four years has seen the economy basically flatlining unemployment among young people is up to something like sixty five seventy percent nobody really knows so i mean his management of the country has been pretty abysmal more broadly you're right to say that nothing is ever been pinned on him there's no conviction of corruption there are something like eight hundred counts of

sometimes you can do it with a big picture, you don‘t need too many words. jason burke, an excellenty angry interview again quite rambling, over allow this afternoon saying he was the victim in all of this. this evening he said, ifear no motion of no—confidence or impeachment. he‘s not going to go out without a fight. my not going to go out without a fight. my senses he spent last week wrangling about getting immunity from prosecution because over 700 charges of corruption await him at the moment is not president. he‘s been wrangling saying, can i cut some sort of deal? like happened in zimbabwe when it was forced to step down. at the moment the constitution doesn‘t allow for that and he may be worried about those charges hanging over him. definitely echoes of robert mugabe. i think so, i was last on the programme the day he eventually stood down. it‘s two lots of pressure on jacob eventually stood down. it‘s two lots of pressure onjacob zuma. one is the criminal charges potentially, and the very widespread understanding of a lot of corruption here. police are going to the family of

journalist jason burke writes for the guardian newspaper in great britain he's covering the story from baghdad is back welcome to day w does president zuma have a point despite the with of corruption that swirled around him for years he's been convicted of nothing and they and say hasn't demonstrated that he's breached any of their roles. no i mean him for a variety of reasons one is that he's always the intellectual liability and that's not just politics are pretty much every indicator in terms of the health of the economy. unemployment crime has been heading down pretty dramatically on day is nine year old so as simply a question of mismanagement there's also even if there's no actual conviction in the courts there are also something not a one hundred counts of corruption hanging over jacob zuma which had just been reinstated and the public protector is kind of constitutionally mandated independent. and he has accused. all being. involved in what she told state capture which is they affected in crop a relationship between. the presidency and business families particularly while on th

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