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. >> judge jeanine: that was congressman jason chaffetz as well as tre gowdy from the house joa oversightvent planners. $17,000 for an art person. art teacher who draws while he is on stage. and $11,000 for a happiness expert. it is the public that needs the happiness expert after we see how much the irs wasted our money. with me is a former commissioner of the irs mark everson from indianapolis. all right, mark. what do you think -- >> i mean i'm kind of at a loss for a question. are these people stupid? >> just disgraceful. i can't imagine what they were thinking, the individual yes, all of these things you -- the video, all of the things you just mentioned really undermines the agency and frankly people he's faith in government. when i was at the agency i had a deputy who oversaw the same part of the agency and he brought a turkey sandwich to lunch every day in a brown paper sack and if somebody said we want to spend $4 million and go to anaheim for a week he would have thrown them out of his office. i don't understand this at all. i really don't. >> judge jeanine: interesting. i'm loo

jason chaffetz -- and take a look at the ridiculous statement from senator rand paul.on fox, let's watch. i think the president has been struggling to regain the moral authority to lead the nation and this doesn't really encourage anyone. to reappoint or to promote basically the person who is guilty of misleading us over the benghazi tragedy. i can't imagine keeping ambassador rice in any position much less promoting her to an important position. how are they going to have the authority for people to believe what they're saying when he's promoting someone who directly and deliberately misled the public over benghazi? the benghazi tragedy is really not going to go away until we have some answers. really why was there this elaborate coverup? >> you know, i used to think rand paul had at least a philosophy that you could justify, the ayn rand, objectivism and now he's just a poll. the president is struggling to regain the moral authority. the president's numbers on personal ethics are excellent. there's no struggle here about his personal integrity. anyway, also on fox ka

among concerns for the oversight committee members like jason chaffetz, over time, memories fade. >> you seek the truth, these people know what happened before the terrorist attack, they know what happened the night of the attack, and we want them to be truthful and explain to us what happened, how those decisions were made. >> reporter: all indications are it will take place in coming weeks following subpoenas. state department officials say they were discussing dates with the committee. >> mike, thank you. join me friday, 10:00 p.m. eastern, for a special look where we are in the libya investigation, benghazi, the truth behind the smokescreen. friday at 10:00. >>> on scandal watch, the irs inspector general says lax oversight let them buy wine, romance novels, baby clothes. some were used to buy online pornography, but those cards were said to be stolen.ing on cl hill and will talk about special scrutiny for progressive, religious groups. attorney general eric holder should testify before the house judiciary committee, discussing the investigation of journalists. those taking part

>> it only took a few minutes before jason chaffetz to tweet judgment is key to national security matters and that alone should disqualify susan rice from her appointment. he tweeted that about 7:40 this morning, not long after we found out the white house was going to be making this announcement today. on the flip side, congress really doesn't have a lot of power in this case. >> doesn't require confirmation, senate approval. >> exactly. so no matter what they have to say and we've been seeing those early stages of anger about this, there's not much they can do and you're seeing from the white house here, a statement really that they don't think that these allegations or these charges against susan rice that she mishandled this benghazi affair are going to stick at the end of the day. they're elevating her. >> we got some new numbers on the nbc news "wall street journal" poll. the president's approval ratinging is holding steady. largely untouched by these controversies, but from benghazi to the ap and irs, they have raised concerns about the administration. 55% to 58% say they are conce

jason chaffetz is joining us, a key lawmaker from utah. he's been very critical of susan rice. you tweeted earlier today, congressman, you thought that her views as far as the benghazi situation was a concern and should disqualify her as the president's national security adviser. go ahead and explain why you're so fiercely opposed to her getting this job. >> well, look, the president can select who he wants. he's obviously rewarding loyalty. what i'm concerned about is the national security adviser to look at intelligence and make judgment. a judgment is the key thing you look for. obviously susan rice is demonstrating the case of benghazi that she has very poor judgment. she has said she read the daily intelligence brief and yet went on the sunday talk shows and perpetuated a myth, in fact, i believe a lie, to the american people. she's never apologized for that. she never helped set the record straight and it is something that i think she goes into this position without a lot of trust. it is not as if she's made ames for this. she certainly has done nothing to help us get to

congressman jason chaffetz joins us. >> i'm glad to come on your show and say we issued subpoenas. unfortunately secretary kerry was given an opportunity. we saw it with his per view of having been a senator for so long. he would be more friendly, more conducive to providing witnesses, and the role of congress, no, not the case. we had invited since april, we named 13 people. chairman issa did. we've been able to interview one person with no help of the state department. and finally we said, these four, we're going to have to compel them to come here. >> i have a letter dated june 24th from the committee in which it said -- i've submitted multiple requests to interview former and current state department officials. are they just ignoring you? >> we've been given the stiff arm for the last 10 plus months, every time the state department spokesperson stands up and says, well, we're being -- we're, woulding with congress, that's not true. as somebody who's on the committee. >> is it a lie? >> yes, it's a lie. it would be fiction, deceptive and a lie to say that they are working with t

. >> but fink clashed with utah representative, jason chaffetz, over his lack of planning leading up conference. >> when did you become aware of the massive expense? >> i actually did not become aware of the massive expense until much later. i did not know what the expense was at the time of the conference, that we were paying. i did not know what those expenses were. >> and you're the number two person in that division? >> yeah -- >> and you're oblivious to the expenses? >> as i -- >> you're totally ignorant of the expenses? >> now, the irs spent nearly $50 million on some 225 conferences between 2012 and 2010. that anaheim event was the most expensive. bill? >> all right, thank you, hampton pearson, very much. that "star trek" video, that's going to haunt them for a long time. heading towards the close -- >> this is who is looking at your taxes. >> that's who's doing our taxes. 35 minutes left in the trading session. you say, ho hum, up 21 points, but the dow was down 117 points midday. it's been a big comeback today. >> not so much a ho hum after all. even with today's comeback, t

that was jason chaffetz from utah, what does it take for somebody to actually get fired, jon. jon: mike emanuel in washington. mike, thank you. >> reporter: sure. arthel: come take a look at this. this is something you don't see every day. an suv in your swimming pool. we'll tell you how this one got in the that pool, that car. >>> the latest government spying controversy throwing president obama's civil liberty abouts record into question. so what information should the government have access to? our legal panel weighs in after the break. ♪ roundup ♪ now roundup has a new sharp-shootin' wand ♪ ♪ just point and shoot, and weeds are gone ♪ ♪ 'round fences, trees, even mulched beds ♪ ♪ 'cause the only good weed is a weed that's dead ♪ ♪ roundup [ male announcer ] with a new one-touch wand. yeha! [ whip cracks ] jon: new video. a dramatic crash in southern california. the driver lucky to be alive after crashing her car through two fences and winding up in a neighbor's pool. harris faulkner, live from our new york newsroom. harris? >> reporter: it sound like something we could lau

tost: what i was talking jason chaffetz from utah and jimmy jordan last night, i do something i do notmally do. laying off law enforcement officials at the same time this conference was going on, furloughing secretaries that make $20,000 a year in south carolina. i had secretaries coming to me at my da's office, asking if we could have a fund so they could buy a birthday present for their kids. and exactly the same month, in exactly the same year, other government employees are blowing money on trinkets and handbags and $3500 presidential suites. want these witnesses to have a sense of the outrage and the disconnect between government this fiscallyare irresponsible and government employees and law enforcement and da's offices who are struggling to make ends meet because of budget shortfalls. the irs has been around more than 100 years. if they are just now figuring out that you don't blow money when people are losing their jobs and their houses and their health insurance, we know the way to collect revenue in this country. ,ost: nooks ville, virginia republican caller, you're on the ai