. >> reporter: jason clums is the politically appointed regional administrator which covers four statese february 2010. in charge for three of the cooking classes, the etiquette speaker and the awards lunch. this is outrageous. people when they hear things like government workers going to cooking classes, and not just one, but many, many cooking classes over several years. why was that allowed to go on? >> it was the culture. i think it was the old culture of gsa and you saw it in the news that was generated out of the western region's conference. it was the old culture. >> reporter: why weren't you able to put a stop to it when you came into office? >> i think we've seen new leadership at the agency and that will affect my ability to put a stop to those kinds of things. but you're absolutely right, it's unacceptable. >> reporter: do you have the power to stop that kind of stuff? >> i think when we see new policies come into place, there's more authority that's going to be given to regional administrators to stop things like that. >> reporter: do you not have the power now? >> don't hav

>> yeah. >> reporter: there's one more thing jason clums apparently didn't have the power to stop. >>he ghost of gsa present. let's take a look at you in action. >> reporter: last year's holiday video contest. >> i'm the ghost of gsa past. ♪ it's another team-building exercise. the team that came up with the most creative video about efficiency in the gsa would win an ice cream social. all of what you are seeing was written produced, acted, taped and edited on federal government time. >> were these videos that would make people better employees? improve the systems? improve the efficiencies of the office? >> no, they were just for -- see how cute they could be would be my estimation. ♪ >> reporter: gsa employees used to be able to watch the videos online, but when the news broke about that spending scandal in las vegas, that's when the holiday videos disappeared. clumb, who says he didn't know about the cooking classes couldn't use the same excuse when it came to the holiday videos. >> i was one of the judges. again, that was part of a culture that was -- it was pretty common througho

. >> jason clum is the regionally appointed administrator. he's been in charge since february 2010.arge for three of the cooking classes, the etiquette speaker and that $3,000 awards lunch. this is outrageous to people when they hear things like government workers going to cooking classes and not just one but many, many cooking classes over several years. why was that allowed to go on? >> it was a culture. i think it was the old culture at gsa. you saw it in the news at the gsa conference. it was the culture. >> why weren't you able to put a stop to it? >> i think we've seen new leadership and that will help my ability to stop these kinds of things. you're right, it's unacceptable. >> as an administrator, can you stop that stuff? >> as we see new policies in place, there's going to be more authority given to regional administrators to stop things like that. >> do you have the power now? >> don't have it now and haven't had it, yeah. >> there's one more thing that jason klumb apparently didn't have the power to stop. >> this is the ghost of gsa present. let's take a look at you in ac