for more, i'm joined by jason goldman. board member from 2007 to 2010, and also the white house chief digital officer under president obama. you do not mince words about this. to put it in words appropriate for our television audiences, you say either way, twitter faces a not good outcome. why? >> either elon will acquire the company, and he has shown to be not serious about the proposition, the ideas about what he wants to do are not serious, or he walks away. that is basically a one-sided option he holds at this point. and the company is left in a situation that is in critical -- increasingly chaotic for them to manage. emily: how big is the bot problem? does he have a point? >> he doesn't have a point. it is not serious. it is fine to report that is why the deal was on hold, which is as matt levine pointed out, not a real thing. the bot thing is not real, either. we don't have to look far to see that is not the real reason for what is going on. on april 21, he said if the twitter bid succeeds, we will defeat the spam bo

to talk about what could come out of tomorrow's meeting is jason goldman, one of the founding membersf twitter and i'm sure you have been through a few twitter annual meetings. this will surely be unlike any other. jason: this feels like the rag in iraq of twitter annual meetings where there's only one option shareholders are looking for which is to know deal is going to go through because now the deal price looks like this amazing deal and the rest of the world has melted down. i think the questions are going to be can i get my money now? emily: can twitter's board answer that question jason:? the best thing they can assert is the deal is not on hold. that there is no such thing at the deal being on hold, we have a deal for the price we agreed to and we are committed to executing this deal and will force compliance and execution of this deal if we have to. emily: is elon musk just bluffing? jason: i don't know. i think it's interesting he's been quiet on twitter. may be losing $70 billion of your own note worth by posting about twitter proved to be a little expensive for the world's

charlotte alter quoting founding twitter team member jason goldman who says, quote, the tech rhetorican obsession of the mostly white male members of the tech elite who made their fortunes years before. this as a cnn media analyst, david zerwik, also had a meltdown on live television. >> we gave over what amounts to our air waves or internet waves to mark zuckerberg and elon musk. and we are in so much trouble because those guys believe in making money. i'm serious, we don't have people in congress who can make regulations that can make it work. you need regulation. you can't let these guys control discourse in this country or we are headed to hell. we are there. dagen: how are we going to control the channels of communication in this country? brandon, what do you make of this insane meltdown? >> well, unfortunately it's not all that surprising for me to hear. there are elements of the progressive left, this is their very intent when they talk about regulating big tech, talk about reining in big tech, it's all about controlling our speech. who can say what. what can we talk about? and

jason goldman, who was on the founding team of twitter, says the tech rhetoric around free speech hasulture at many of the biggest companies in silicon valley. you know, i said i took it for granted and, pete, you've made point several times. freedom of speech is actually, yes, a foundationational concept within western civilization, but it's largely been betrayed by most of western civilization. the united states of america is the lone holdout. and i understand that writer's drawing a distinction between governmental censorship and a private platform, but we have to also acknowledge there's a cultural value to the idea that i disagree with what you have to say, but i will defend it to the death. we honor disagreement and freedom to say what you will but no longer in america. pete: i'm so grateful to those at the constitutional convention who insisted on enumerating the bill of rights because the debate was of course free speech is protect aredded under our constitution. we don't need to write it down. that limits the number of freedoms we have. the debate was won by those who advance

bank of america, congressman, morgan stanley, goldman sachs, goldman sachs is talking about punitive inflation. obama official, larry summers, jasonn, they have all been talking about it, but congressman, there is a way out of this. we can fix the economy. the crises are man-made. how we govern ourselves. how would you fix the economy, how would you fix inflation? >> first off this administration believes the way you fix inflation is to spend another five trillion dollars? you can't inflate yourself out of inflation. you can't spend your way out of inflation. stop the spending. even democratic economists said if you pass the two trillion dollar american rescue plan that would lead into unseen inflation in a generation. that is exactly what has happened. stop the spending. grow the economy. unfortunately this administration is shrinking the economy. we saw that last quarter with the gdp falling 1.4%. it is a disaster. every policy they touch they create a crisis. elizabeth: steve, we've got four new states now doing flat taxes. arizona, georgia, iowa, mississippi. but the white house, democrats claim that raising taxes is a fix for

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