an msnbc political contributor jason johnson.matthew, what do you think of donald trump not just getting involved. and when he says, you better get everything, do you think he actually knows what everything even means? because i heard him talk about election interference, which actually has nothing to do with this. >> well i think he knows what everything means in regards for himself. so, if everything means something for himself, he knows what that is. everything as regards to the country, i don't think he has any idea what the country is good for the country. because if he did he wouldn't be advocating for a shutdown in the midst of this. this to me is such a perfect example of the difference, obviously, but in the republican party today in the democratic party today. you may disagree with the democrats, but at least they're trying to practice some rational form of governance and involve confidence involving in leadership. republicans have no desire. it's all performance art. it's all some satisfying, some grievance, especially

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