jason kessler is the person who got the permit for this event.sted size of his event maybe between 100 and 400 people. he listed david duke, the former leader of the kkk, as one of the speakers here. well, 100 people didn't show up. 30 people didn't show up. david duke did not show up. neither did several of the other speakers who were supposed to be on that list. and while kessler told me earlier in the day he sees his effort here as one about protecting the 1st amendment and about protecting free speech and is not a racist message, several of the people who were in his group on that metro train told me they felt that white people were the founding -- forget the exact word he used, founding race, founding culture of the united states and anyone who wasn't a white america was somehow less american. this is a wholly inconsistent message delivered by an incredibly divisive leader who doesn't appear to be speaking for the folks in his group. and the question of what could be heard of their group, having circled this park a couple of times over the c

led by jason kessler.ee dozen or so, even less of those followers of kessler in lafayette park. surrounded by thousands of counter protesters and members of the group antifa. meanwhile both parties looking to hone messages for voters. president trump vowing to stay aggressively involved in republican campaigns. >> is so and that will go out there and put currency and we want it or deny special election so far it's a great track record. >> real big elections coming up in 2018. we need to be focused on that. i support candidates that support values i believe in. prague jobs, everyone gets healthcare. it should be the message of the party. arthel: what can we expect? the deputy managing editor -- we been watching all the processes after peer what you think of the political impact of these are when people are sitting at home on a sunday weekend and they see these two groups out in force. confronting each other and some of the things we've seen today. >> i think people do get concerned and i know that i am here

and walking further south, you see jason kessler.pointed out, the rally wasn't supposed to start until 5:30. they started way ahead of time, just across from the white house. much more press than there are adherents to jason kessler and his group. richard? >> viqueira, in washington, d.c., watching what is a big concern there for local officials that should not get violent. and so far that's been the case. viq, i know we'll be getting back to you here on msnbc. thank you, sir, for now. >>> still ahead, see how life has changed for survivors that were injured during the deadly attack that happened one year ago in charlottesville, virginia. managing blood sugar is not a marathon. it's a series of smart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress. i've been making blades here at gillette for 20 years. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making america's #1 shave. precision machinery and high-quality

then over here, we don't see any signs brought by the jason kessler led protest which just arrived a few minutes ago. but all these counter protesters seem to outnumber the guys that are here for the unite the right 2. they were waiting for them. so the police really have their hands full. look at the scene right here. you ever see anything like this, we are walking down 23rd street away from the foggy bottom metro. i think this guy wants us to move. you go all the way down the street which is blocked right now, it would be at the lincoln memorial. so essentially, there will be a turn onto pennsylvania. eventually culminating - - yeah. >> it appears the police are at least trying to keep the sides separate unlike what happened in charlottesville. >>reporter: yeah, can we come right here for one second? so this is the front of the line. and it's a lot of counter protesters on either side. on the sidewalk, on the north side. there's a lot of middle fingers, a lot of profanity. it's hard to tell even what side is what, to be honest. on the sidewalks. but, all of the unite the right prot

this is the entrance were jason kessler and the dozen or so "unite the right" folks went in. ago a police sergeant came up to this exit where the antifa folks have been. they wanted to block kessler. there was was upwards of 500 to 1000. the sergeant made a bullhorn and loud announcement and said that kessler has left. "unite the right" rally has ended. please disperse.please go home. however, as you can see, not all have left and i think it is possibly in part because they have a little bit of a distrust of law enforcement and they also are out here making a stand against the administration. and there were a few words exchanged between the protesters here and law enforcement as well. there is an anti-law enforcement sentiment among some of the crop you larger the antifa crowd.you can see here folks in the yellow, they are the d.c. volunteers. right now there was an altercation with heated words, being exchanged between the police, this is an announcement from the police saying that kessler has left. to disperse. we will see what we can hear. what you are hearing are some dis

the organizer of the secondig unite the r rally, jason kessler, telling reporters his purpose is to stand up forree speech rights. >> people are attacking my supporters. they have their cars vandalized. they're threatened i social media kicking off people for hatech spee >> reporter: but counterprotesters see kessler's rally in a muc different wa as promoting hate. >> you're not welcome here. like, i don't want any of you -- a don't want of your hate speech in my neighborhood. so it felt like the right thing to do. >> reporter: kessler's group wal guided bye to the last car on the train reserved for them, part of aep plan to sate them from other riders. this kessler supporter from northern virginia, who is hispanic, explains why he came along. >> defend fre,om of speeou know. everyone has their message. he has a right to speak. >> reporter: thereas one arrest outside the station, a man who spit on two virginia state troopers. and here's the scene just about ten minutes ago at the vienna metro. jason kessler and his small contingent of people arriving back here agn, being surrounded by pol

what i think is more dangerous is somebody like jason kessler with a suit versus what i used to be 30ld see coming from a mile away. even though they may have lost because they had less numbers, it was still a win for him because there were thousands of counter protesters and hundreds of police officers who had to come out and it still showed that they had a platform right on the front lawn of the white house. >> you have talked to, you have debated with jason kessler. let's take a listen if we could to the conversation if you can call it that that the two of you had. >> do you hold yourself accountable for the violence that happened there? you were the organizer of this rally. >> those protesters put themselves in a very dangerous, very risky situation because they were defying the state of emergency order. >> but it was an alt-right person who came to that rally who ultimately drove his car into a group of people. >> that's true. but he has not been found guilty and i would say there is a lot of reasonable doubt in that. >> christian, what can you tell us about jason kessler as we a

i know i can't change jason kessler. i can expose him for what he truly is. >> oh, youtube, this is jason kessler, i promised you on twitter and gabbed to have are a debate today. i thought it would be interesting to talk to this guy. his name is christian picciolini. you call yourself a former white power person. so you were in a skinhead gang, right? >> right, how come you put up air quotes? >> because don't use the term white power. what i am, and what i think a lot of people in the pro right are pro white, not nazi skin heads. i think white people deserve to be represented like other groups are represented. every other racial group, every other identity, whether it's gender, or a sexual orientation identity, they have lobby groups. >> but that's because they are searching for equality, they are not trying to wipe out white identity, they're trying to be recognized. >> but i think these anti-white activists, they hate anything who's white, they want to tear us down instead of holding themselves up. >> do you hold your

jason kessler who organized this event and the one in charlottesville is standing on the stage. they have told people i think not to speak to the media. they have told people not to be violent. that is not what happened obviously in charlottesville, but you are seeing him talking to a crowd. honestly, he is talking to people who will already believe ing what he believes. there is no one over here other than the media that is really listening to him shgs ba, becauu will walk with me for a moment, you will will see that, let's go around, kind of here, and you will see where the majority of the people are, and just to give you an idea of the distance between the two groups, it is quite vast. you will see the police are in positions here, but that is the crowd that is standing against unite the right. it is huge in comparison. and we are talking about a handful or so on one side of people, and hundreds of people on the other and they are managing to drown out jason kessler who is talking now. ryan. >> thank you, sara sidner, we appreciate that. and now the charlottesville where the

jason kessler was in the courtroom and he know what the medical examiner said, and he has not issued fake news. >> he helped spread the heart attack theory. >> that >> because you can't keep something going and based off lies and expect it to last. >> the thing that really didn't settle into my mind until later was how was going to this city that i've never even heard of before and provoking these people to violence, how is that really going to change anybody's mind about anything? it just makes everyone look bad, really. and people got hurt from it. >> susan, i'm assuming nobody has ever reached out to you and said really sorry for what happened. >> nobody who was at the rally. but i don't hold him responsible. i hold the leaders responsible because they deliberately stirred up the anger. he was used. i'm sorry you were manipulated. >> i'm sorry you lost your daughter. >> thank you. i apreciate that. but i don't hold you accountable. you understand? so where do we go from here? how do we fix this? honestly, susan, i don't know how. >> i don't either. i think we're all trying to figu

as the unite t right leader jason kessler and about 15 of his supporters walked from foggy bottom metroite house, they were followed and harassed by a large group of counterprotesters. d.c. police formed a gauntlet to escort the group the eight blocks through the city. thousas of counterprotesters showed up today. the vast majority obeying police directions. but there were some un rprotesters, many dressed in all black and hiding their faces, who clashed with police. this skirmish happened more than an hour after the white supremacists had left the city. and a small group of protesters, some identifying as b lckes matter, fed off with police blocks from the white house near metro center. police deployed chemical spray to disperse the crowd. right outside of the white house, some protesters fired off bottle rockets at police. in the district, mark segres, news4. >> the man who organized the rally passed through the vienna metation armed with american flags jason kessle message of division was countered by a message of unity. julie kerry spoke to the unite the right organillr after the >>

jason kessler insisted he's not a white nationalist. because white people do not have civil rights. >> a lot of white people feel aggrieved, because they feel like the country that they're waking up in 2018 is a very, very different country than the one they woke up in 1960, 1970, 1980. >> officers were also involved in a standoff with more than 150 antifascist protesters who blocked streets after the rally ended. d.c. police say the day's events ended with one arrest. meanwhile four people were arrested in charlottesville when people marched to fight hate and remember heather heyer. she was killed when a car drove into a group of protesters. her mother put flowers at the site. >>> a baltimore police officer seen streaking a man several times on video has resigned from the force. the officer, who has not been identified, was suspended shortly after the video surfaced. another officer is on administrative duty. here is adrienne bankert. >> reporter: what you're seeing is described as excessive use of force captured on video. mcgreer was

if you can make him out there, their leader jason kessler, he's the one holding the american flag. he's the one who was the principle organizer behind the rallies in charlottesville last year that led to all the conflict. he's the one that filed the paperwork for the permits for this rally to take place this year. let's talk about this. we have two very smart voices. paris and tara, you are both important voices here. you're both african-american. you're both republicans. you both feel differently about president trump and his role in all of this. paris, i want to get back to a conversation we were having before about perhaps the amplification of these voices. certainly, as we can see from these pictures, this is not a very big group of people leading this protest. but it was a much different scene in charlottesville last year. there were a lot of people there. could it be that after a year's worth of time that perhaps these voices are being suppressed to a certain extent, at least to the point where they don't feel comfortable coming out in large numbers to a protest like this one

the charlottesville paper interviewed jason kessler's friends. this guy is an atheist. 's girlfriend says, he broke with me because he called me too conservative. the girlfriend was not liberal enough for jason. when i pointed this out on social media, jason kessler makes a video attacking me, but in the video, he also attacked the rich. pretty obvious the guy is still a leftist. in the movie, you'll see this. you have to see this movie this weekend, by the way. it opens today. quite frankly, if you want to know how to help, see the movie now because the fate of the movie depends on opening weekend. we do well this weekend, our movie will explode into more theaters, reach more people, have more of an impact in november. this movie will make you a very dangerous american. in the movie, i interviewed richard spencer, the poster boy of white supremacy. we released a short clip in the media already. i say to spencer, do you believe all men are created equal? no you believe in individual rights. no. you believe in individual rights? no. where do our rights come from? >> from

only two dozen or so with jason kessler the organizer of charlottesville last year, and doing the unite white rally 2.0 here in d.c. today, the disorganization, the disunity, the lack of message was clear from the start. most of these folks showed up. they didn't even have metro cards so they marched into the vienna metro station and then marched right up to the metro card machine and had to slow themselves down to buy fare to get into the district. and the message was muddled from the word go as well. kessler tried to tell me in an interview that this was not a racist event, that this was all about free speech. then i started talking to some of the people who showed up with them and two young white supremacists, there is really no other word for it, told me they considered white americans to be the founding stock of this country. and if you weren't a white european american, you were somehow less american than they. so no message unity. the ride in on the train was probably the highlight of the day for these guys because they had the press attention to themselves. and when they got int

the group's leader is jason kessler. jason kessler, unite the right: "there are a lot of people who would have loved to have been here today but were afraid for their safety, were afraid for their freedom." but some of the counter protesters have their own ideas about why their opponents numbers were so small. mike brady, counter protester: "i think it was their fear of being showed up by people like us by real americans." in washington, im drew petrimoulx (jrstone)ku klux klan flyers are showing up in the bay area. specifically in solano county.those in one neighborhood found recruitment flyers on their driveways. kron4's gayle ong was in suisun (sis-soon) city and talked with neighbors. ths is one of the areas the flyers were found.to make things more unusual - they were packaged inside a plastic ziploc bag full of raw rice. the ku klux klan recruitment flyers were left on driveways here in suisun citya very bizarre discovery in a racially mixed neighborhoodsot sotresidents say they saw a truck pass through friday nigh

the group's leader is jason kessler. jason kessler, unite the right: "there are a lot of people who would have loved to have been here today but were afraid for their safety, were afraid for their freedom." but some of the counter protesters have their own ideas about why their opponents numbers were so small. mike brady, counter protester: "i think it was their fear of being showed up by people like us by real americans." in washington, im drew petrimoulx (jrstone new tonight at 8.ku klux klan flyers have shown up in at least one solano county neighborhood. (justine) people found these k-k-k recruitment flyers littered about their driveways. kron4's gayle ong is live in suisun city with the story. gayle? ths is one of the areas the flyers were found.to make things more unusual - they were packaged inside a plastic ziploc bag full of raw rice. the ku klux klan recruitment flyers were left on driveways here in suisun citya very bizarre discovery in a racially mixed neighborhoodsot sotresidents say they saw a truck pass th

the transformation took place right where jason kessler was talking about. the transformation to place with the immediate postwar amendments to the constitution in 1865, 1866, 1868. that was the beginning of the trade-off. that was the beginning of the trade-off of security. and not just physical security, , but economic security for liberty. the implementation of the 14th amendment through the courts and through the congress is what has led us to where we are. one interesting thing about the 14th amendment, jason did not represent exactly what the 14th amendment did. it was not just supposed to be -- it is not articulated as a race based amendment to the constitution. neither is prohibition on slavery, except as punishment for a crime. does anybody doubt the 13th amendment is what gave rise to the prison industry? does anyone doubt it is the 14th amendment that has created a situation where the courts can use the concepts of race to divide people against each other. in new orleans, what we have seen is the former mayor, mitch landrieu, and the current mayor

is jason kessler, i promise kwrod have a little debate today.g to talk to this guy. you call yourself a former white power person. so you were in a skin head gang, right? >> why you keep putting up air quotes. >> because i don't use the term white power. what i am and what i think a lot of people in the altright are are pro white. we're not nazi skin heads. i think white people deserve to be represented like other groups are represented. every other identity whether it's gender or a sexualianitation identity they have lobby groups. >> trarlts because they're searchinge quality. they're trying to be recognized. >> but i think that these antiwhite activists, they hate everybody who's white and has accomplished something. they want to tear us down instead of building themselves up. >> do you hold yourself acountable for the violence that happened there? you twhur organizer of this rally? >> those protessers put themselves in a dangerous sit because they were defying the state of emergency order. >> but it was an altperson who ultimately drove his c

on the white nationalist side jason kessler the man who organized both last year's and this year's unite the right rally he said he first of all he wanted this year to be peaceful but he also said he wanted to spark a debate a conversation about the role of white people in american society today because these are people who genuinely believe that white voices are being shut out of american life right now and on the on the counter protesters side they really wanted to come out and say that this is not what washington d.c. is about this is not their country this is not their city and they wanted to really stand against that. joining us from washington thank you. time now for some of the other stories making news around the world human rights groups have called on european governments to allow the aquarius rescue ship to dock and let one hundred forty migrants and. this off to italy blocked exports to migrant ships it accused the charities of colluding with human rights with human smugglers to run a migrant taxi service that encourages legal immigration. a powerful explosion in north and sy

organizers of both this year's rally this year's unite the right rally and last year's rally jason kessler said in a media interview earlier this week that his first goal was to keep things peaceful but his second goal was really to to send a message to spark a debate and to stand up for white people's first amendment rights of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly now as you can see behind me there's quite a large crowd gathering to stand against this message and then fact it's grown exponentially in the past couple of hours kessler is really trying to be a prophet provocateurs or here and he really seems to if you read interviews with him really believe that white people in america are very marginalized voice one thing of that of course white supremacists always say is they're being marginalized that they don't have a voice that they don't have a share in the politics of the nation if you talk to anyone around me here they'll say they absolutely do not believe that they do not see that in action and that in fact this administration has simply been helping fuel white supremacists and

jason kessler wants to do this, what they are doing to palestinians to every single one of you today. and they call themselves a democracy. but it's nothing short of a genocidal or colonial state, an internment island just like home. and i stand before you as the founder of the queer palestinian empowerment network, and an organization we strive to exemplify and acknowledge the palestinian and lgbtq community, palestinian women beyond palestine who identify as queer, trans palestinians. heteronormative . we celebrate and acknowledge our community in its value and diversity. we need to empower the palestinian queers. right. so, however, i am going to move on. you know about precaution. i am going to expand on this. right now we need quality. who is with me? a couple of things to look out for. has developed a process under ice to start the naturalizing people. naturalizearted to de american citizens, and their test subjects were palestinian organizers. one in chicago and one in ohio. don't you understand this? naturalizing american citizens, pillars of society, just because they are pal

jason kessler went to uva. a lot of people these are highly educated.he khaki pants. >> stephen miller went to duke. >> i like the fact that uva's president mentioned, two organizers graduated from this university. they're not dummies. they're sophisticated, organized people, who are in this for the long haul. they think the president is on their side. we have to recognize the danger they pose as terrorists, not just as mean people. >> i never thought of duke as a great university, but i will agree with you on -- >> many call it the princeton of the south. >> well, i'll agree with you on one point, one way you often spot anti-semitism is when people say, the holocaust was a tragedy that involved lots of people. >> yes. >> somehow, the jewish aspect of it wasn't central to its nature. >> right. >> that is exactly what trump was doing in the tweet. more than that, he's offering the nation a tweet on the subject? 280 characters? this should be an occasion for a president to go and speak at the lincoln memorial. to go and speak somewhere else and deliver a

jason kessler is organizing the rally in d.c. today. one, we have an absolute right to do this.e're protected by the first amendment. judge moon said to that, that's silly. you have a free speech right but you don't have a free speech right to plan a violent conspiracy, to plan a mob, committing violence, to plan a bank robbery. it's no different than planning a bank robbery. so, he took care of that. their second defense was -- or second argument was, well, even if we really did say that stuff and even if we really didn't mean it, your honor, we didn't intend for anyone to run over people, to drive into a crowd and hurt anyone with a car. we were talking about sticks and clubs and guns, but not cars. he said, it doesn't matter. if you intended to hurt people, which they did with guns and clubs, and tiki torches, the fact that someone used a car to do it, you're still liable for it. >> let's take a listen -- is is it a listen? no, full screen, this is from vox. the alt-right is going -- you have a week, bros, best spend it having four or five of your friends simulate jumping you

. >> reporter: white nationlist jason kessler who organized last year's rally has a new rally plannedor sunday in washington, d.c., touting, quote, "white civil rights." at least five counter-protest groups were also granted permits and washington, d.c. itself is planning a series of events called "united to love." back in charlottesville, university virginia students and others. gathered to demonstrate against supremacy. they are allowed in other part of charlottesville, while items like metal pipes, fireworks and skateboards will be banned. demarco? >> morgan: thank you. race in america will be the focus of tomorrow's "face the nation." margaret brennan's guests will include senators tim kaine and tim scott -- and the mayor of charlottesville, nikuyah walker. u.s. officials are still trying to reunite as many as 386 children who were separated from their parents at the border under president trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy. their parents have been deported -- but officials say they have been able to reach most of them. officials meanwhile are investigating the death of a

. >> reporter: activist jason kessler organized the event in virginia one year ago that led to the death of protester heather heyer. >> i'm okay with sharing this country with people from around the world, but if you bring in too many people at once, it's not the same country anymore. >> reporter: counterprotesters gathered early in d.c. many say they came out to make a statement that there's no room for bigotry in this country. >> i'm here because i'm a white person. i don't want to be associated with the neo-nazis, white supremacists, and that hate. >> heather hire's mom was there to urge others. >> i don't want other mothers to be in my spot. i don't want other mothers to go through this. >> reporter: sunday's unite the white rally ended sooner than anticipated. kessler and 30 of his supporters left washington in van, escorted once again by police. tony dokoupil, cbs news, new york. >>> the baltimore police officer caught on video punching a man repeatedly has resigned. the officer asked the man for identification saturday. he refused, and that's when the trouble started. as one offic

do you feel like trump is a supporter of this group and jason kessler? >> yeah. i -- you know, i think he's like just a pretty fair, intelligent man. >> reporter: we asked the white house for a response. sarah sanders told us via e-mail, quote, the president has condemned all racism and said many times it has no place in our country, end quote. if ever white supremacists feel emboldened, it's now. randi kaye, cnn, washington. >> a quick reminder, don't miss our daily interactive newscast on facebook where you pick up some of the stories that -- you pick some of the stories we cover. it's called full circle. you can see it every week day night at 6:25 p.m. eastern at facebook.com/anderson cooper full circle. that's 6:25 p.m. eastern every week day night. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris. "cuomo prime time" starts now. >>> three generations of cuomos like your facebook show. my mom, my wife, my daughter. three generations. good for you, brother. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." an exclusive tonight. the closest that we've been able to g

the organizer of last year's rally, jason kessler, was denied a permit to protest in charlottesville this year. as a result, he will be in washington d.c. tomorrow for a ."white civil rights" ral counr-protesters are also planning rallies there. we're joined now from charlottesville , nicole hemm assistant professor at the miller center at the university of virginia. she is also the hostf the podcast "a-twelve," which deals inth last year's event charlottesville and the history behind it. thanks for joining us. so, let's talk about, really, wh happened in that year since. >> yeah, so, in the year since, there has been a lot of focus on trying to figure out, first of all, what went wrong last year. why was this event that was known about well in advance, whi was t so violent? why was there so little containment of it? but then, also, really a much broader push on issiues of te typremacy, racism, economic inequality in the and a real effort to try to address some of those underlying issues that have kept charlottesville sort of on a knife's edge for a few years now. >> sreenivasan: one

. >> reporter: unite the right leader jason kessler pushing for what he called white civil rights. >> it's okay to be white. white lives matter, too. >> reporter: law enforcement on high alert all day. a coordinated effort to prevent a repeat of the bloody brawling that erupted a year ago in charlottesville. president trump widely condemned last year for failing to denounce white supremacists in his initial response to charlottesville. this time preemptively tweeting, i condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. white house aide ivanka trump adding her voice. there is no place for white supremacy, racism and neo-naziism in our great country. >>> those tweets an apparent effort to make amends for the president's own rhetoric which at times has found support among avowed racists. now law enforcement officials tell us they kept watch around the white house overnight, even as washington, d.c.'s mayor says there were no arrests related to the rallies. phillip? >> all right, jeff, thank you. >> meantime protesters also converged in the city of charlottesville, the site where last yea

. >> reporter: jason kessler says he's not racist, but considers himself a civil rights advocate for white people. >> i think that white people are in a different situation than they have ever been before. right now, white people are about to become the minority in both the united states and europe. i think we are facing epidemic levels of anti-white discrimination. >> reporter: kessler blames police partly for last year's violence. knowing that it went in that direction, why do it again? >> i liken what i'm doing to the civil rights movement in the 1960s when martin luther king brought his freedom riders into southern cities where they were very much opposed to the message of black empowerment, his people got attacked. i see it very similar to what happened in charlottesville. >> reporter: as kessler marches in d.c., susan bro will be in charlottesville sunday, honoring her daughter, 32-year-old heather heyer killed on this street. >> what will be will be and we'll move forward from there. >> whit, we were here security is much more ramped up. the rally isn't even here. it's in d.c.

so do more than a thousand left wing marchers who call themselves and chief were anti fascists jason kessler who organized that unite the right march is leading this one day that you hear around you that is a anti-white. leaving many here fearing another round of violent confrontation and i think something serious could happen i think something terrible would happen let me just say i. should shot as phil kessel is charlottesville our richard spencer is not expected in washington though his ideas are. yes i mean america story please undoubtedly a white country were headed in a very different direction what we're saying rings true what we're saying cuts right to the heart of the matter and that's why people are attracted to us that's why we're growing hundreds of city and u.s. park service police will line the streets with one simple goal well to make sure be to make sure that nobody is injured and nothing gets broken barricades will play a key role police say they've learned lessons from charlottesville and their main goal will be to keep the two groups apart even as they converge by the hund

jason kessler, the speaker and organizer from last year, blames the low turnout on low gu-- logistical issues. >>> and demonstrators expressing disgust with the police who were out in force throughout the city. heather heyer's mother spoke to cnn about the tribute to her daughter. >> i burst into tears when i first got there. there were people there traumatized because they were there last year. it was very challenging for them. one young man hugged me and could not stop the tears rolling down his chiefs. another one came up and said he had been -- his cheeks. another one came up and said he had been there last year. one finished her final surgery about a month ago and she walked up to hug me. >> police arrested four people at the charlotte protest. president trump posting a tweet ahead of the protest saying the riots in charlotte a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. i condemn all types of racism. peace to all americans. a bit of the departure from the comments from last year's united right rally when he said there were fine people on both sides of the conflict. >> he h

that being said, the guy who organized the rally last year, jason kessler has lost his constituency witht-right. he doesn't have followers, he's been denounce bid all kinds of alt-right leaders so i don't think he'll be able to martial the numbers he did last year. >> that's one of the things you talk about which is so interesting. assess the state of the alt-right and the movement among those people who marched one year ago versus today. is it an upward trajectory or downward. >> it's been devastating for them. that's their words. initially after the rally they were in denial, that maybe that just shook out the weaker elements but over time, the problems have been compounding. of course they're kicked off social media but they've also been kicked off payment processors, which means they can't raise money online. it's an internet movement. they need internet donations and it's impossible for them to get that so chris cant well, the man i interviewed, he can only raise money through bitcoin. there's infighting in between groups, some have been ousted, one leader was exposed by the "times"

. >> repor on sunday police escorted jason kessler's group into the last car of an orange line train. only police and supporters were in that car. other passengers were moved to the front of the train. when it arrived at foggy bottom othe passengers were asked to exit first so the unite the right protesters could be escorted off. now they are being blasted. >> i if go down to complain or be pro something they don't escort me. >> i guess they don't want to see fights or anything like that. so i definitely would have done the samething. >> they were alreadyranted the permit. on that point i think it would be on them to find their own mode of transportation into d.c. >> reporter: metro admits it closed part of the vienna station so the protesters could get the train. >> once they were on the car, we opened the b station tooard that train. >> reporter: police made the final call in the interests of keeping everyone safe on board. > the train made stops on its route to foggy bottom just as it would any other service day. >> reporter: with one d.c. councilmember calling it unbelievably wron

jason kessler, one of the organizers of last year's unite the right event, says he's not a racist. calling himself a civil rights advocate for white people. >> white people are about minority and in both the united states and europe. i think we're facing epidemic levels of anti-white discrimination. >> reporter: this year the unite to right two rally is held in front of the white house on sunday. president trump criticized for his response to the violence last year tweet, the riots in charlottesville resulted in senseless death and division. we must come together as a nation. peace to a an anti-facist group quietly marched through charlottesville saturday afternoon paying tribute to heather hire, the 32-year-old woman killed when main drove his car into a crowd during last year's protest. the group leaving messages at the site of her death, heather's mother also there to honor her daughter. >> we're trying to make the world a better place. and either get onboard or get out of the way. >> reporter: on sunday she'll stand with many of the people who marched with her daughter last yea

. >> activist jason kessler organi today demonstration and the event in charlottesville, virginia one year ago that death of counter protester heather heyer. he said there's a lot of anti-white discrimination in this country. >> white people should have the same treatment as any other groups. we should be able to stand up for ourselves. >> counter protesters gathered earlier today in d.c. many said they came to make a statement that there is no troop for bigotry in this nation. >> i'm here because i'm a white person, i don't want to be associated with the neo-nazis, white supremacists, and that hate. >> in charlottesville there was a massive police presence to keep demonstrators peaceful. >> heather heyer's mom urged people to fix what she called a huge racial problem in this country. >> i don't want other mothers to be in my spot. i don't want other mothers to go through this. >> last year president trump did not initially condemn the white nationalists involved in the deadly attack. this year he condemned all types of racism to mark the anniversary. >>> a kkk leader facing jail time

jason kessler, one of the organizers of last year's unite the right event, said he is not a racist.the united states and europe. i think we are facing epidemic levels of anti-white discrimination. >> reporter: this year the unite in lafayette park in front of the white house on sunday. president trump criticized for his response to the violence last year. today tweeting, the riots in charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. we must come together as a nation. i condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. peace to all americans. >>> an antifascist group quietly marched through downtown charlottesville saturday afternoon paying tribute to heather heyer, the 32-year-old woman killed when a man drove his car into a crowd during last year's protests. the group, leaving messages at the site of her death, heather's mother also there to honor her daughter. >> we're trying to make the world a better place and either get on board or get out of the way. >> reporter: on sunday she will stand with many of the people who marched with her daughter last year. abc ne

. >>> despite the fact that fewer than 30 white tinaonalists showed up jason kessler refused to call yesterday's rally a failure. left lafayette square beforer theiarch was even expected to start at 5:00 p.m. northernirginia bureau chief asked them why they left downtown so early. >> prove that we can do a peaceful rally and that we can speak and we did that and we proved when lawor ecement had a robust commitment tosp free eech and protecting both sides when they keep the sides separate, people can bed. >> didn't y just really get chased out oto downwn? no, we left for the safety reasons because of the rain and the weather. >> kessler insists yesterday' march was about free speec and the first amendment, not hate. >>> there was one arrest athe vienna metro station. 30-year-old donald franklin georgette was arrested for spitting on two virginia state troopers. he is from d.c. and has been charged with simple assault. >>> metro's largest union says general manager paul wiedefeld deserves to be fired. >> he lied to employees on how they were transported downtown. >> chris lawrence at t

you know, jason kessler was in the courtroom and he knows that the medical examiner's report said bluntorce trauma to the abdomen and he has not issued that information to anyone. >> in fact, he's done the opposite. he's helped spread the fake news. >> he's helped spread the heart attack theory. >> that's pretty [ bleep ]. sorry. heart attack theory. >> that's pretty bull [ bleep ]. sorry. >> i think god understands. >> because you can't keep something going and base it off lies and expect it to last. the thing that really didn't settle into my mind until later was how was going to this city that i've never even heard of before and provoking these people to violence, how is that really going to change anybody's mind about anything? it just makes everyone look bad, really, and, you know, people got hurt from it. >> susan, i'm assuming nobody has ever reached out to you and said, i'm really sorry for what happened. >> nobody who was at the rally, but i don't hold him responsible. i hold the leaders responsible because they deliberately stirred up the anger. he was used. i'm sorry, you wer

. >> i can tell you what david duke and richard spencer and jason kessler and matthew h have said isthe current administration has given them the go ahead, thumb's up, wink and nod, that's their words not mine. >> that's potent coming from a mother who lost her child there last year. how does that fit into this? the quote, political accountability for what may be separate acts of violence. >> i mean, what we've seen since donald trump was on the campaign trail is extreme white supremacy, affinity towards white nationalism. he's allowed for white people to talk terribly about black people, about muslims. so when that young person was killed by the protester while it was shocking and disturbing we knew that donald trump created the environment for that to happen. >> and so what is the activism that turns this? or is this by necessity defensive activism? in other words you both are involved in a organization with a wide impact, black lives matter, is a term discussed all over the world, but talking about fighting white nationalists at grass roots level is quite different from the work o

jason kessler, the organization's leader, you are seeing some of the counterprotesters here but the rain is having an effect on that and having an effect on the unite the right marchers who came, they actually left. they did their rally very early and they left very early. they were taken out in advance. they came by foot but taken out in vans. police doing share job, keeping these two groups apart. there was a huge police presence here. and they will be criticized, some people saying why were so many police here. they were here because of what happened in charlottesville. they wanted to make absolutely sure that did not happen again, the violence that unfolded there and the killing of heather heyer. >> sara sidner, brian todd, both from washington, thank you. you may be feeling relief at home, but the reality is we have a long way to go. the number of hate groups in the u.s. is still on the rise according to the southern poverty law center. neo-nazi groups have seen the largest increase, up 22% since trump took office in 2017. joining us now, political commentator mark lamont hill. also

jason kessler, the organizer of the unite the right rally is planning a seql in d.c. today, among the scheduled speakers former kkk leadur david . >> on sunday, we know that we have people coming to our city for the sole purpose of spewing hate. we, the people of washington, d.c., say unequivocally that we denounce hate. >> reporter: on a working vacati in new jersey, president trump will watch the rally on television, not from a white house window. on saturday,r. trump tweeting to preemptively condemn all racism in violence a stark contrast to his response last year in charlottesville. >> i think there's blame on both sides.ad we've some very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people, onoth sides. >> reporter: a view condemned by those demanding a stronger response to hate. and willie, the official permit for this rally here today says organizers expect only between 100 and 400 people to attendhe rally. we expect several times more than that will show up for he counter protest. >> we can see right in the shadow of the white house ove

now jason kessler the organizer of that unite the night rally is planning a sequel in d.c. today.nd among the scheduled speakers former kkk cleared david duke. >> on sunday, we know we have people coming to our city for the sole purpose of spewing hate. we, the people of washington, d.c., say unequivocally we denounce hate. >> reporter: president trump will watch the rally from television and not a white house window. he said on saturday, the following. a stark contrast to his response to last year's chaos in charlottesville. >> i think there is blame on both sides. we have had very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. >> reporter: they demand a stronger response to hate. the official permit for this rally here today says organizers expect only between 100 and 400 people to attend the rally. we expect several times more than that will show up for the counterprotest. >> we can see in the shadow of the white house over your shoulder there. garrett, thank you so much. chuck todd is nbc's political director and moderator of "meet

jason kessler, one of the organizers of last year's unite the right event, says he is not a racist, calling himself a civil rights advocate for white people. >> white people are about to become a minority in both the united states and in europe. i think we're facing epidemic levels of anti-white discrimination. >> reporter: this year the unite the right 2 rally will be held in lafayette park in front of the white house on sunday. president trump criticized for his response to the violence last year tweeting, "the riots in charlottesville last year resulted in senseless death. i condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. peace to all americans." an anti-facist group quietly marrh charlottesville saturday afternoon paying tribute to heather hire, the 32-year-old woman killed when a man drove his car into a crowd during last year's protest. the group leaving messages at the site of her death, heather's mother also there to honor her daughter. >> we're trying to make the world a better place and either get onboard or get out of the way. >> reporter: on sunday, she will stand with many of