interesting to see what happens to jason kylar and others. more moving around the pieces. whenever i see people move around the pieces they're not focusing on growth or content. which is their business. david is a longtime programmer i've covered discovery thins i was the "washington post" 30 years ago. writing one of the best leads i've ever written from the guy who founded it, and so discovery's had quite a journey itself although it hasn't taken advantages it has in the branding as well he's super slick and like listening to him for sure but i want content makers to make great con pept mike ama mike -- like "mare of easton" everybody should watch. >> and zaslav at discovery for a long time. >> not -- >> is he the right person to compete with disney and netflix? linear and streaming experience? he said earlier he wants to sign up 400 million people. is that realistic? can he do to >> i think he's an old-school media person and doesn't have the technical chops he needs to understand it. i don't know what they'll do with jason kylar not sure he angered a lot of hollywood p