jason carroll, thank you for joining us. and an unending tale of the tapes, carl douglas, represented elgin baylor when he unsuccessfully sued for wrongful termination. and leec. green, good to see you all. and let me ask you about that idea. let me ask you, lee, if you were a -- i don't know working with damage control, olivia pope type person and you wanted to get out in front of this, do some damage control. you could call a press conference for donald sterling or you could leak a tape where he is really not a racist. what do you make of this tape? >> that the cow or horse has already left the barn. had he done something initially when all of this broke on that saturday he might have had a chance of combatting public opinion. but the tsunami wave that has made him the largest villain in sports i can recall since michael vick, lance armstrong, is too strong. and the dye has already been cast. they're on the way to having a hearing and then voting to take the team away. and those attorneys who argue that she -- the wife somehow can own the team as part of a trust, this is not a private business. it was granted to donald sterling. he was the one who has acce