ladies and gentlemen, jason lynn young did not murder his wife. he did not murder their unborn son. ot been solved. >> reporter: who better to make the argument than jason young himself. but so far, he had never said a word to anyone about the november night. and almost five years silence. >> it is always a big decision for defense attorneys whether or not to call their clients. >> reporter: a former prosecutor and legal analyst. she covered the trial. >> this is a case that really begged for jason young to testify. if he is innocent. >> reporter: after all this time. >> if he is truly innocent. get on the stand and tell the story. >> we call jason young. >> reporter: with his mother in the front row, jason young prepared to do just that. defense attorney brian collins hit it hard off the top. >> did you kill your wife michelle? >> no, sir. >> wore you there when it happened? >> no, sir. >> reporter: what about jason's missing hushpuppies that match the shoe print. he no longer owned them. >> are those the shoes you had on november 2nd. >> no, sir. >> they were all ratty. told michel

jason miller, lynne patton, c katrina pearson where we talked about the possibility of him saying --id i have heard from a credible source he said it. >> you actually heard the tape. >> absolutely. what's your question, savannah? >> let's get to it. how long is this tape? >> there are multiple tapes. let's establish that. when you read my book tomorrow, which is available tomorrow, "unhinged" you'll see three different sources that corroborate. >> you said since the book was published you've heard it. how long is that tape? >> it's about three minutes. >> is it audio or video. >> audio. >> camera outtakes. >> audio. >> what is the context? >> you like most americans learn about -- >> it's in the book. >> talk about the n word is throughout the book. have you read the book. i answered that question, savannah, what's the next question? >> the president -- >> he was talking about african-americans in the production during the course of the "apprentice," which is unacceptable. here is one thing, why don't we ask donald trump one thing, donald j. trump, have you ever used the n word. peop

in fact, there was a conf aence cang campaign workers, jason miller, lynne patton, and katrina piersonhe possibility of him saying, andis own spokesperson, katrina pierson, said i have heard from a yedible source that yes he said it. actually heard the tape? >> absolutely. >> let's get into it.on how is this tape? >> there are multiple let's establish that. when you read my book tomorrow which is available tomorrow "unhinged" you'll see there are three different sources who corroborate the differentngs he said. >> you said since the book was published you have heard it. how long was the tape? >> about three minutes. >> audio or video? audio. >> okay. what is the context? >> i'm going to allow you and most americans to read the book. >> this isn't in the book. >> the talk about the n-word tape is throughout thebo . have you read the book? >> yes, but -- >> i answered that question. at's the next question. >> i was curious, the context in he presidentlege used the n-word. >> talking about some african-americansn the production during the course of the "the apprentis" which unacceptable.

first heard about it in the fall of 2016, got on a conference call with katrina pierson, lynne patton and jason miller as you will see in the book, and they all suspected it was true. in fact, katrina pearson, the spokeswoman for the campaign, said he said it. it's true. >> she never heard him say it. she's denied the -- >> i mean, she knows i have receipts. i think she should probably read the book first and then hear herself saying it. >> before listening to that tape, before getting the tape that you described, had you -- were you ever in his presence when he used a racial slur? >> you know, i was in his presence when he said inappropriate things but never used the "n" word in my presence ever. >> let me move on. you said that the betrayal -- the idea that he might have used this word, that it would be this betrayal because he might have used it about you. >> absolutely. >> do you believe he used it about you? >> possibly. because donald trump talks about everyone behind their backs. you leave the room, he has something for you. he has a nickname for everyone in his administration and his ci

jason miller. former trump organization employee lynn patten and spokeswoman katrina pearson where pearson said shenew he used the word. omarosa's allegations coming with wide-spread denials from people quoted in her book. >> that is absolutely not true. i have no sources with that tape. she was the only one that brought this tape up. people that i've checked with who she mentioned have no idea what she's talking about. >> while defending himself against omarosa's attacks, president trump apparently confirming white house staffers are asked to sign non-disclosure agreements. omarosa claims the trump re-election campaign offered her a $15,000 a month job in exchange for signing an nda where she would have to promise and agree to not demean or disparage the administration and trump family members. >> i never signed that draconian nda they presented to me when i walked into the white house. >> reporter: am rosa coming under fire for secretly recording a conversation with chief of staff john kelly in the white house situation room and a phone call she had with president trump after she was fired. >> om

a conference call in 2016 with former trump senior communications adviser jason miller, former trump organization employee lynn used the word. omarosa's allegations coming with widespread denials from people quoted in her book. katrina pierson: "that is absolutely not true. i have no sources with that tape. she was the only one who brought this tape up. people that i've checked with who she mentioned has no idea what she is talking about."while defending himself against omarosa's attacks -- president trump apparently confirming white house staffers are asked to sign non-disclosure agreements. omarosa claims the trump campaign offered her a fifteen- thousand dollar a month job in exchange for signing an n-d-a -- where she would have to "promise and agree to not demean or disparage" the administration and trump family members.omarosa: "i never signed that draconian nda that they presented to me when i walked into the white house." omarosa coming under fire for secretly recording a conversation with chief of staff john kelly in the white house situation room -- áandá a phone call she had with president trump afte

she described in october 2016 phone conversation with lynne patton, and campaign communications director jason miller, in which they discuss how to deal with the potential fallout from its release. >> i'm trying to find out at least what context it was used in to help us maybe try to figure out a way to spin it. >> reporter: patton then described a conversation she had with then candidate trump about making the slur. >> i said, well, sir, can you think of any time that this might have happened and he said >> well, that is not true so -- >> he goes, how do you think i should handle it? and i told him exactly what you just said, omarosa, which is, well, it depends on what scenario you are talking about. he said, why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed. >> he said it. no, he said it. he's embarrassed. >> pierson denied the call ever took place during an interview on fox news monday night. >> katrina cursed and said, he said it. did that happen? >> no, ed, that did not happen. it sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. >> reporter: the white house and trump campaign have not provided

on the tape not verified by nbc news, lynn path ton, katrina pearson, and jason miller are talking about how they would deal with the fallout over a possible recording of mr. trump saying the "n" word. >> i'm trying to find out at least what context it was used in to help us maybe try to figure out a way to spin it. >> i said, well, sir, can you think of any time this might have happened. he said no. >> well, that's not true. >> he goes, how do you think i should handle it. i said i told him what you just said. it depends on which scenario you're talking about. and he said well why don't you put it to bed. >> he said it. no, he said it. he's embarrassed. >> omarosa first alluding to that conversation monday morning on "today." >> in fact, there was a conference call among campaign workers where we talked about the possibility of him saying it and his own spokesperson said i have heard from a credible source that, yes, he said it. >> reporter: but before it was released this morning, pearson went on fox news monday night to deny that call ever happened. >> no, ed. that did not happen. it

lynn patton so i apologize, it was an honest mistake. it does not change the substance of the fact that you are claiming our two different phone calls, one with jason miller. >> i'm not claiming that. ed: let me get to the facts. bottom line is you're saying one with and without jason miller, the one without jason miller, omarosa says they have not aired it yet. and katrina pearson, okay. that is a thing -- you said he said it. he used the and word. >> i am refuting the claim omarosa made. ed: let's talk about chuck todd. i'm not going to do that. >> let me tell you what i'm receiving. ed: you said he said it. you told me you never said that. you are on tape. >> that is not what we were talking about, not the question you are asking me. this was in regard to a specific discussion, check the tape on chuck todd and savannah guthrie that she said i said and confirmed donald trump said a derogatory term, conference call with jason miller, that did not happen. what happened today, omarosa submitted two tapes to cbs. ed: we are not going to get sidetracked by two tapes. >> there two tapes. ed: you explain them. first of all, i will lead this discussion.