the quote you put up from jason miller, viewers should understand that jason miller has been one of the stout trump defenders for several years here. to hear him on the record questioning the white house strategy is significant. we reported at the "wall street journal" a few days ago that it was the white house freedom caucus, a group of conservative lawmakers who are the staunchest trump supporters in congress had to go to the white house and say, hey, we're not hearing enough from you, we're not having enough messaging, we don't understand the strategy, and that led to a daily phone call between lawmakers and key lawmakers on the hill and senior white house aides. the white house is stuck between trying to say that they did nothing wrong, that they don't want to participate and their allies saying you have to do more, you have to participate, you have to help us help you. >> mithanks to both of you. appreciate it. >>> still ahead, the white house is pushing for the whistle-blower in this ukraine scandal to come forward but is that likely to happen? >>> and john bolton could be the sta

i am jason miller here from the long firm and i am proud to support renewal a k-12 charter school. at september 10th meeting i addressed the fact the single petition is renewal. new school submitted one charter without any factual support it is determined there are two petitions. i am displayed to be two separate items renewal of k-5 and material revision never requested. it would be outside the district jurisdiction had it been given because the school's current authorizer is the state board. new school is and always has been k-12. it is miss characterization of the language of the charter to suggest otherwise. in 2014, this board sited a k-12 program to deny the charter. new school as authorized is steadily adding a grade level each year. grade one was in year one. grade six will be in year six. staff reports suggest the state board upon hearing the appeal in 2015 changed new school to can-5. the state board had no such authority. the appeal by the local board to deny the charter petition must be made with de novo review. in 2014 it was a petition for k-12. we are concerned any a

. >> jason miller federal news network.tion capabilities in authorities and congress from the ministration and you said that in a positive way, we do offer a look into what a couple of them that standout that you argue that should be used or planning to use and why they're important? in this environment i cannot. unfortunately. >> is not a matter of will it's a matter of classification. so i will say this, i have not overstated the empowerment aspect of that but a lot are used for the missions that would not be appropriate to discuss. i will provide you a consolation. i hate to send you away empty-handed. if i looked at what the department is headed next for organization, reform and potentially different authorities, i would share with you the information operations as we know traditionally, i looked into a crystal ball and i would share that is probably an area of resurgence and how we look and how we execute and what authorities and rules are in place and what capabilities need to exist, how we build war fighters and equi

. >> jason miller, federal news network. you mentioned capabilities and authorities in congress and the administration and you said that in a positive way. we have to use them. would you offer maybe look into what's a couple of them that maybe stand out that you guys are using ortiming to use and why they're important authorities ? >> in this environment, i can't unfortunately. >> please. >> it isn't a matter of will, it's a matter of classification so i will say this. i'm confident i have not overstated the empowerment aspect of that. but a lot of these are used for the types of missions that we, this forum would not be appropriate to discuss. i will provide you a consolation because i need to send youaway empty-handed . if i look at where the department i believe is headed next for organization reform and some potentially different authorities, i would share with you that information operations as we know it traditionally, if i looked into a crystal ball i would share with you that that is probably a, or certainly an area

matt miller, chief doj spokesman during the obama administration is with us. jason johnson, politics editor for the root.com, and the daily beast, betsy woodruff swan is with us as well. matt, let me begin with you. what do you make of the president subtly invoking the supreme court and that this battle is likely to end up there? >> i think they would love for it to end up in the supreme court because that means we wouldn't have a decision on whether the documents they're obstructing congress from obtaining had to be turned over until some time next year, maybe even past the 2020 election. that's been their strategy all along, not just with this investigation, but with the previous investigations the house launched. deny the house everything they're entitled to, make them go to court, and drag it out because there's a lengthy appeals process. i think, though, this is different in that the house obviously would like to get the documents that they have subpoenaed, but they would like to get witness testimony, but they're not going to wait for the administration to tur

miller. with us at the table, nick confess ori, political reporter for the "new york times." a.b. stoddard, associated editor for real clear politics. and jasonohnson. bob costa, let me start with you. tim morrison, who under no upside down alice and wonderland down the rabbit hole even under trump's most delusional frame, this could not be depicted with anything resembling a deep state resume, corroborating the most damning piece of evidence that donald trump put in place a quid pro quo with the leader of ukraine. >> exactly right. this is a republican that even republicans who are close to the president acknowledge privately and sometimes publicly as someone who doesn't have an agenda to work against president trump. what he did which was so important for the democrats today is to underscore what ambassador taylor said just a few weeks oohing that there was an explicit quid pro quo, at least in the understanding of both the ukraines and officials when it. and because now you are having corroboration of ambassador taylor in such detail, it's helping the democrats to build their case as they move forward with this vote. >> bob costa, you have

jason johnson, politics editor for the root. and former democratic senator claire mccaskill. i wanted to talk to all of you since this news broke, but i have to start with you, claire, matt miller, our friend of the show, had some sort of sharp words about, i think the spirit of it was when john bolton emerges as the white knight, it says a lot about the villains in the story. >> yeah. i look back with nostalgia at a time when we thought of john bolton as kind of a bad guy. as it turns out, he has some character in there. and even though i may disagree with him on some policy, i think he may emerge from this as a key figure. if they get him in front of this committee with the subpoena and he is honest with the committee, i think the full breadth and depth of the malfeasance that was going on as it related to using the presidency for politics is going to become very, very clear. >> a.b. stoddard, i've also been dying to talk to you. and i want you -- i was pointed to the legal breakthrough which was really overshadowed by the dramatic color that fiona hill brought to life in her testimony yesterday about john bolton trying to stand up to really, you know, talk about three stooge