>> jason of george mason university and rudolph discuss the recent government shutdown and debt ceiling debate and what can happen in early 2014. jon kingston looks at the 40th anniversary of the opec embargo. and what the role is today. plus your e-mails and phone calls. on c-span. journal" nomineeohnson is the for the department of homeland security. and after, gay rights act this talks about lgbt issues at the national press club. and the associated press is reporting that republican congressman bill young of florida has died one week after announcing he was not -- he would not seek a 22nd term. he was 82 years old. he died at walter reed medical center in bethesda. he had been there in for nearly two week's. representative young was florida's longest serving member of congress. flags were

of the shut down. we invited to economists to talk about that statement. from george mason university, he is their senior research fellow, jason fichtner. he is joined by rudy penner. now that it is over, how do we gauge the long-term economic effects of what happened in the past three weeks he echo -- three weeks? caller: we have been going through threats of shutdown and threats of violating the debt limit for quite a well now. oft has caused a lot uncertainty in the business community with consumers. important, it has caused extraordinary disillusion with the government. i think those two things have a depressing effect on decision- making and on the economy. i saw an estimate of macro economic advisers that suggested that over the last few years we have lost about .3% per year of economic growth. >> agosta the idea of uncertainty as far as investors and how the community looks at the way we conduct business even on capitol hill. would you agree with that he echo -- with that? caller: this isn't over yet. all we have done is kick the can down to generate 15th. the generate 15 state is decided -- is created to create another

of safeguarding our nation's national and homeland security. thank you gerngs sir. >> on the next washington journal, jason ficker in of george mason university and rudolph pinker discuss the recent government shutdown and debt limit debate and what could happen in early 2014. then john kingston lookled at the 40th anniversary of the opec oil embargo and what the cartel's role in the oil today. plus your e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. washington journal, live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> for guys like us who have been in the game for a long time, we already know there are land mines out there. that you have to be careful about how you manage your way through these things. issues to deal with the abortion issue in the united states, guns, race, arab-israeli relations and other countries and i lived in other countries and worked with cartoonists in other countries. they have their own redlines. and also what a cartoonist can get away with in san francisco and getting away in parts of alabama. >> there are fewer journalists period. it's just generally not a conservative thing. journalism tends to draw, i would think, it would be fair to say