and they form a new zealand politician and philosophy electra and jason pickel and i'm for apologist at the london school of economics and author of the divide a brief guide to global inequality and its solution. maybe the gentleman please welcome dambisa moyo. business 1st book dead a cold wave when she called you the problem help. foreign aid was actually very poor he's a former goldman sachs banker so. welcome here one of the central premises of your book is that the popular discontent that we see across the west right now for example the brics vote the election of donald trump the rise of populist parties is driven by the failure of governments to deliver economic growth yet many experts pollsters people who studied this stuff would say bricks it wasn't driven by economics trump wasn't elected by the poor or the left behind it's a complete myth that had much more to do with culture and identity issues which you don't really address and well i don't mean my doctorate that i completed here at oxford a while ago in economics and so i think very much see these issues a challenge thro

to seduce today's voter in order to remain in often political office ok let's go to our panel jason pickel is an anthropologist a long school of economics when you hear me talk about china in that way does that make sense to long term ism. from this argument very frustrating and the reason is because the book is basically about the value of liberal free markets and you say that we need we need more of them but then you go into detail about how you know you admire china or the new deal or u.s. it's exactly the opposite a common ideology so with the words actually do you follow this i mean it's quite confusing universally true. so i think it's pretty obvious because the new what you describe the new deal manhattan institute. sort of manhattan project china what they have in common they have the government incredibly important role not a governmental big government not seduced by short term voters every 2 years or every electoral cycle that is where the common things they are perhaps not an allocation decisions are based on long term thinking long term planning issues which focus on future ge