as far as jason reazian and his fate? i think it is hard to know what will happen with him now. it is hard to know if he's being held as a leverage against the united states, weather he's being held by hard liners or another faction in iran. they will have to keep pressing for his release. host: the headline in the "wall street journal" he was convicted by the tribunal in tehran. they have the ability to implement could be compromised said the former u.s. officials involved in the diplomacy. you were involved in the security measures. how much of a concern was iran on -- in your tenure during the bush administration? michael: it was a tremendous concern. over the course of the 2000, iran become even more of a concern as time went on. as they made progress towards a nuclear weapons capability. it was in 2002 that the sort of here to for secret nuclear facilities were discovered in iran. there was a decision to pursue the basic policy of imposing pressure on iran through sanctions and credible military threats while pursuing a diplomatic, negotiated agreement. that basic sort of m