here to discuss more, jason stanley, a professor philosophy at yale university, also the author of how works, the politics of us and them. jason, thanks for coming back on the show. let's start with trump's use of the word vermin. am i wrong to make the historical comparison to antisemitic propaganda during the not-so-years? >> no. i mean, this is -- this doesn't echo mein kampf, this is textbook mein kampf, except for an explicit mentioning of jews behind, left any antisemite we'll hear this from vocabulary directed against jews. but hitler himself was an antisemite, he took that jews were behind the international left, marxism, communism. but his real target was democracy, and anyone who was pro democracy or labor unions, trade unions, he labeled as marxists. this over broad use of marxist to target, basically, any political opponent, this is a familiar from fascism and the way you attack democracy. and of course, labeling you are political opponents vermin, yeah, and the knots is targeted their political opponents, they targeted people who are in incarceration and concentration camp

thank you so much for being here, and with us also is jason stanley, he's a professor of philosophy at yale university, and also the coauthor of the new book the politics of language. jason, good morning. i want to start with you. at a recent speech, in a since deleted truth social post, trump said quote, we pledge to yoth we will root out the communist, marxists, fascists, and radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. this is really strong language. how blatant is the use of the word vermin in that sentence, and what is the historical significance of that language? >> so, donald trump is targeting his political opponents. as harshly as he possibly can. in the 1930s, the naughty party in their rhetoric targeted normal social democrats, just normal opposition and opponents, as merck cysts and communists. and they used that as an excuse to fill the newly built concentration camps with their political opponents. this is the very same rhetoric, and remember the 2016 election, when people said take him seriously but not literally. i hope we've learned to t