october of 2010, jason winesteen and james trusty swapped e-mails and specifically mentioned gun walking. and mr. attorney general, that e-mail is so illustrative of our frustration with the notion that maine justice did not know about this. i'm assuming that james trusty's a maine justice employee, am i correct? >> i believe that's correct. >> all right. this is the e-mail. and they're specifically talking about fast and furious and, in fairness, they also mention laura's tucson case. they say it's a tricky case given the number of guns that have walked. but it's a significant set of prosecutions. the e-mail back to that is, i'm not sure how much grief we're going to get from gun walking. it may be more like people are finally going to say, we went after the people who sent guns down there. now, lay aside the merits of that argument. how can you deny that people in maine justice knew gun walking was going on before that february 4th letter was sent to a member of congress? that doesn't even get into the wiretap applications. that doesn't get to the factual predicate that a member of mai