fair from your own knowledge to say neither lenny brewer, as head of the criminal division nor jason winestein did anything to stop the program after they learned what it was about. >> stop the program. >> fast and furious prior to brian terry's debt? >> they both admitted they were aware of operation wide receiver and connected the techniques used in wide receiver to operation fast and furious and as a result did not take any action in that regard. both admitted that was a mistake. >> let's go through this, i think in my limited time i want to make sure we deal with wide receiver versus fast and furious. as of today, do your law enforcement authorities, such as the atf see a straw purchase, rather than arrest them at the door with no evidence, follow them to the next location? >> see them -- >> in other words, does law enforcement have the ability to follow suspected gun traffickers with the weapons in their car from location to location? >> keep them under constant surveillance? >> yes. >> they certainly have that capacity. >> so as far as we've been reported every piece of evidence shows in