jasper, jasper, jasper, just for you, bob. >> you say that three times, satan appears. >> i could watchinterview every day. >>> today president obama and members of the kennedy family visited the gravesite of jfk nearly 50 years after his assassination. we'll show you that and discuss it as well. >>> we'll also talk about whether jfk wolf at home in today's democratic party. that's when we return. there are seniors who have left hundreds of dollars of savgs on the table by not choosing the rit medicare d plan. no one could hav left this much money here. whoo-hoo-hoo! yet many seniors whoompare medicare d plans realize they can save hundreds of dollars. cvs/pharmacy wants to help you save on medicare expenses. test. to get your free, personalized pl comparison today. call, go online, or visit your local store today. >>> there was another time when another young candidate was running for president and challenging america to cross a new frontier. my friends, i ask you to join in this historic journey to have the courage to choose change. it's time again for a new generation of leadership.

jasper, jasper, jasper, just for you, bob. >> you say that three times, satan appears. >> i could watch u. ahead on "the five," today president obama and members of the kennedy family visited the gravesite of jfk nearly 50 years after his assassination. we'll show you that and discuss it as well. >>> we'll also talk about whether jfk wolf at home in today's democratic party. that's when we return. whether j today's democratic party. that's when we return. announcer: right now at sleep train, save hundreds on beautyrest and posturepedic. choose $300 in free gifts with tempur-pedic. even choose 48 months interest-free financing on the new tempur-choice. the triple choice sale ends soon at sleep train. >>> there was another time when another young candidate was running for president and challenging america to cross a new frontier. my friends, i ask you to join in this historic journey to have the courage to choose change. it's time again for a new generation of leadership. it is time now for barack obama. >> that was the late and great teddy kennedy recalling the promises of his brother's

one of the things that happens in jasper johns' work is that he makes the image that's projected insidehe canvas synonymous with the surface of the canvas. there is no more interior space in the image. the target, the american flag are manifestly, absolutely on the surface of the canvas. johns is being ironic about earlier pictorial subjects, like portraits or still lifes or landscapes. this painting, based on buckminster fuller's map of the world, is an ironic landscape flattened to match the modern tourist's impression of space. by refusing illusion, johns was making some sort of comment about the nature of modern experience. in the mid-1950s, the art of the disposable consumer culture was born. in '57, the british artist richard hamilton issued its manifesto. this art, he said, should be popular, that is, designed for a mass audience. it should be transient, expendable, low-cost, mass-produced, gimmicky, and in the 1960s, this art came of age-- pop. there was at that moment a kind of liberating nihilism, a sense that you could sort of clear away the junk of an inheritance from the 19

jim jasper says the hospital where she worked as a nurse, the hospital worked her to death, with longeaks. beth jasper crashed her car last march while driving home after a 12-hour shift at cincinnati's jewish hospital. the family believes she may have fallen asleep behind the wheel. in addition to seeking damages, jasper says he wants the hospital to change its practices. >> it needs to change. these nurses cannot be treated this way. the patient care, you know, is an issue. but they can't continue to work these nurses and expect them to pick up the slack because they don't want to staff the hospitals. >> a spokeswoman expressed sympathy but declined to comment on pending litigation. holly, how do you prove that this hospital worked this woman to death? >> what they need to do is prove causation, jodon, that the hour were so long and they knowingly contributed to her state when she was driving that vehicle. but i have to tell you, california is the only state in this nation that has what they call safe staffing ratio laws, which means in ohio, this hospital, even though they made her

jim jasper says the hospital knew what was going on. >> i mean, they knew.ng like this, they were told something like this could happen. they're compassionate about patients, don't want to make a mistake, but you know, when you work under those conditions, it is going to happen. >> our legal guys are back. avery freedman in cleveland, joey jackson in for richard herman, joining us from new york. avery, let's start with you. jim jasper is arguing his wife's death was a foreseeable consequence of her working longer shifts. does he have a legal argument in that state? well, you nailed the legal standard. was it foreseeable for the employer to expect this would happen. and let me tell you something. i love the theory. i think americans are overworked, they're suffering. the fact is except for california, none of the other 49 states has a law that protects workers. at the end of the day while i think it is very creative and we suffer for this family, of course, i don't think this case is actually going anywhere, and that's unfortunate. >> so joey, this family at

in 2008 baby brother jasper joined the family, and he's already proving to be quite the biter. >> jasperems to have taken onboard as well, and jasper now enjoys going around and biting people's fingers. >>> coming up -- have you ever wondered how to do the moon walk? >> certain things aren't that hard if you know how to do that. >> that and cat on the keyboard. >> she brings up her left paw and begins playing with the other paw. i think that's remarkable. >> when "caught on camera: viral video - millions served" continues. are you ready grandma? just a second, sweetie. [ female announcer ] we eased your back pain... ♪ ready or not. [ female announcer ] ...so you can be up there. here i come! [ female announcer ] ...down there, around there... and under there for him. tylenol® provides strong pain relief and won't irritate your stomach the way aleve® or even advil® can. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol®. >>> want to learn how to flirt? do a magic trick or skateboard like a pro? well, now you can find all you need to know right in the comfort of your own home

i've been privileged to know jasper for 20 of those 50 years. i've been a member of that church when i heard his sermons. i've heard him preach the gospel. i've heard him teach others. i've heard him save people's lives. i've heard him and see him reach out in the community to help children get day care, to attend to the sick and poor, and to do everything without any expectation of benefit to himself but the self-satisfaction of serving the lord and serving his church. he has a great church at salem baptist. they have two sites and ft:bot-2 congregations. he learned the ministry from his father. went to salem baptist church to preach as a guest on easter sundays, 19636789 and in november of that year, at the age of 19, that church offered jasper the pastorship of salem baptist and he has been there every day since. his two sons also preach in the salem baptist church community to carry on the tradition of the jasper williams family. he's a graduate of more house college, the leading black institution in atlanta, at th ae atlanta university comp

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in 2008 baby brother jasper joined the family, and he's already proving to be quite the biter. >> jasper taken onboard as well, and jasper now enjoys going around and biting people's fingers. >>> coming up -- have you ever wondered how to do the moon walk? >> certain things aren't that hard if you know how to do that. >> that and cat on the keyboard. >> she brings up her left paw and begins playing with the other paw. i think that's remarkable. >> when "caught on camera: viral video - millions served" continues. over the next 40 years the united states population is going to grow by over 90 million people, and almost all that growth is going to be in cities. what's the healthiest and best way for them to grow so that they really become cauldrons of prosperity and cities of opportunity? what we have found is that if that family is moved into safe, clean affordable housing, places that have access to great school systems, access to jobs and multiple transportation modes then the neighborhood begins to thrive and then really really take off. the oxygen of community redevelopment is financin

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according to the lawsuit, jasper's supervisor alerted her superiors she was being worked to death. >>e upper management, the hospital staff these are unsafe conditions for the patients, for the nurses. >> reporter: in a statement, the hospital would only say our hearts go out to the family. we do not comment on pending litigation. the american nurses association said a nationwide shortage of nurses has created a dangerous situation. according to the ana, one in ten nurses say they were involved in an exhaustion-related car accident. but jim, who's now raising their two children alone, says he's ready for his day in court. alex perez, abc news, chicago. >> very interesting thing. everybody knows about being overworked at one point or another. but they say jasper has to reasonably show the actions of this employer led to the death of the employee and legal analysts say that will be tough to prove. >> you can almost see how it would be tough to prove because was she sleep deprived because she was working too much or going home and not going to bed when she got home, was she not getting e

that's jasper. >> obamacare is so bad that the company brosurance has to come up with these types ofto get woman to sign up for obamacare. you have a am would on the left got insurance. the caption reads, let's hope he is as easy as this birth control. what a great message. it's cheap and tacky? >> i thought it was a joke. it is not. >> we are covering them in red eye tonight. >> today, sub par. the irony here is this is an administration that is called sub par policy they are a sub par administration. who are you to say what is sub par. >> just remember in golf sub par is good. >> if she gets pregnant if she can't get on the web site is that obama's fault? is>> is there obamacare for obamacare? >> being a politician be another democratic voter. >> see. that's it for us ton "the five." see you back here tomorrow. special report with "bret bait p next. >> it is november 13th. desperation in the philippines as people are literally rush crushed to death during a looting rampage. all while one sign of hope stands tall right in the middle of all of that destruction. >> a checkup in strate

according to the lawsuit, jasper's supervisor alerted her superiors she was being worked to death. >>se are unsafe conditions for the patients, for the nurses. >> reporter: in a statement, the hospital would only say, "our hearts go out to the family. we do not comment on pending litigation." the american nurses association said a nationwide shortage of nurses has created a dangerous situation. according to the a.n.a., one in ten nurses say they were involved in an exhaustion-related car accident. but jim, who's now raising their two children alone, says he's ready for his day in court. alex perez, abc news, chicago. >> very interesting thing. everybody knows about being overworked at one point or another. but they say jasper has to reasonably show the actions of this employer led to the death of the employee and legal analysts say that will be tough to prove. >> you can almost see how it would be tough to prove because was she sleep deprived because she was working too much or going home and not going to bed when she got home? how do you prove that as a husband she was not getting ei

that's jasper. >>> all right.are is so bad that the company has to come up with these type of ads to try to get women to sign up for obama care. you have a woman on the left and it's called got insurance? the caption reads let's hope he's as easy as this free birth control. what a great message to send to women everywhere. i don't think it's going to work an it's cheap and tacky. >> i thought it was a joke. >> it's not a joke. >> apparently it's not. we're covering them ineye" tonight. i haven't done a baz bad phrase in a while. today, subpar. the administration has called various insurance companies subpar when in fact they are a subpar administration. who are you to say what is subpar. >> and just remember, in golf subpar is good. >> i just thought of something. if she gets pregnant because she can't get on the website, is that obama's fault? >> it could be. is there obama care for obama care? >> i tell you one thing, being a politician is being another democratic voter. >> that's it for us on "the 5." thanks fo

wesley wolford finds jasper from 17 yards out. minutes left and wolford drops back and he'll connect for a 45-yard touchdown. suitland beats duval 18-17, and what a finish for navarro bowman's alma mater. had his jersey retired during halftime that have ball game so a spectacular game for high school football. >> all right. and tonight might be a good night to throw some logs in the fireplace because it's going to get cold. >> watch. windchills in the teens tonight. >>

. >> reporter: this morning, jim jasper is adamant that the hospital where his wife, beth, worked as a nurse, worked her to death, literally. now, he's suing that hospital. >> they cannot expect the nurses to work under these conditions. >> reporter: driving home after a 12-hour overnight shift, at jewish hospital in cincinnati, beth was killed when she crashed into a tree. >> i lost my best friend of 21 years. my wife of 14. >> reporter: jim believes his wife was so tired, she fell asleep at the wheel. the lawsuit alleges that during beth jasper's final shift at the hospital, she complained to others that she was really stressed and hadn't eaten. also, as a result of understaffing, nurses at jewish were often required or asked to work through breaks. extra shifts and stay late. according to the lawsuit, jasper's supervisor alerted her superiors that she was being worked to death. >> she had just told the upper management, the hospital staff, these are unsafe conditions. for the patients. for the nurses. >> reporter: in a statement, the hospital would only say. our hearts go out to t

. >> tim jasper said the hospital where she worked as a nurse worked her to death with long hours andth jasper crashed her car last march while she was driving home after a 12-hour shift at cincinnati jewish hospital. the family believes she may have fallen asleep behind the wheel. mr. jas. s claims the hospital knew it was willfully understaffed and his wife was extremely stressed and fatigued. in addition to seeking damages, jasper says he wants the hospital to change its practices, as well. >> needs to change. these nurses cannot be treated this way. the patient care, you know, is an issue. but they can't continue to work these nurses and expect them to pick up the slack because they don't want to staff the hospitals. >> so, the parent group of jewish hospital and mercy health group says its heart goes out to the family but does not comment on pending litigation. >> here to discuss this with us danny cevallos and federal prosecutor sunny hostin. thank you so much for joining us, guys. obviously, when you're talking about people who work at medical facilities, one of the big issue i

national coalition says it will sit down with the government but only if certain conditions are met jasper more than our isn't it terrible malady in cincy is based. he told us more on these conditions put forth by the opposition. its humanitarian acts as the garment. food and medicine. it serves the communities tracks in the middle. and when to say release all detainees showalter. as a rule states i must say. communique. in a state six. it's only as a transitional gardening. so exited. it uses. only. he does. is this is that no brawl ensued. and the defeated and twenty three rebels in the democratic republic of congo are set to sign a peace deal today. if that happens it would be a key step in efforts to end decades of war pm twenty three rebels have been largely shut down by the congolese army backed by the three thousand strong force from the un in twenty three announced last week the insurgency was over. it is expected to put that in writing in uganda and today today millions throughout the world are gathering to remember soldiers killed in the line of duty remembrance day our irises th

. >> i was hoping you would ask me who was missing from the list and it is jasper perino. i can't support this. and lassie. >> i am bleeping out that perino thing. jesse, you are fired up about this story and i don't know why. >> none of the pandas that ted dan swraw killed in the holocaust were in there. i am a history dork. they forgot bolto. >> he is on there. >> he's on the list. >> check the list. i read the list and he is on there. he saved the people in alaska. >> oh yeah. list. >> then they forgot john bough bough -- john belushi. >> there you go. >> you are furious there were no cats on the list. not even garfield. you said what about cassie's cats? >> this is another example of you making [bleep] up because you are obsessed with cats. i never talk about cats. i never ask to see pictures of cats. you are obsessed with cats. you keep naming fake animals. this is real animals. >> are we going to ig authorize the heat that came off andy. >> i just like this as a sign of solidarity. i don't date rape chicks in the mall where i work. >> what some. >> he has been making

all you see is junk from jasper. >> sherrod, i forgot what this story was about. again it is another example of white people. >> first of all, they were getting persecuted for their views. on 4/20 there were 10,000 people on campus smoking pot. how much more freedom do you need? >> that's the point. you can have that and can't have conservative thoughts. >> did they throw somebody out of the school? >> conservative kids in classrooms felt their grading was based on their -- i don't know if this will really change. it gives them a voice to lodge a complaint. you are not going to change the bias and the ideology of ago academia by doing this. >> didn't it give us little ikeman's. and didn't he make that comment? he was able to make that comment and keep his job. now they feel they have to give people protection. if anyone campus has protection to keep their job isn't it him? >> are you absolutely right. mentioning something i am not aware of. actually i am aware of that. >> i apologize for making a point. >> it is an exceptional point. long hair and he compared ever

part of o it is my brilliance and the other is this dog, jasper who grew up on twitter.it and i wouldteto see how much my feuding partner herese in twitter how much he is owed and he would get 53,053. >> that's because i don't drive people crazy with pictures of dogs. >> i would be in third place. >> it is fun. you can find out how much twitter owes you. >> in i am cashing in on my twitter account. >> cashing in tomorrow. we have a big show and we will deacon instruct the -- de conwe stract the big lie. take a look. >> the apology after theloo pledge. did president obama just join this club? >> no one in the white house staff presently employed was employed in this bizarre incident. was >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> if you like your health care plan, you will be able toke keep your health care plan, period. >> all broken promises and>> backtracking. >> go ahead. 11:30 and dvr it now. bye. >> greg, now. >> have i three things. i hate these people. i hate these people. a lot of people ask me to do things because i am a big tv star. it is like d money on twitter as

do you have jasper's loaded?would be the best. >> i he wasn't allowed. >> you're not bothered by people going can i take your picture. knowing you, you'd go no. >> i like it when people -- >> the runner up word? selfie won. twerk, that's a dumb one. showrooming. bitcoin. and binge watching. i kind of like that one. >> is that when you eat a lot of watches and throw them up? that's terrible. a lot of college kids doing that. >> you can really tell time well. >> rue ruins plumbing. >>> today is a very special day in american history. president lincoln delivered list address 150 years ago. how much do our kids know. >> what political party did abraham lincoln belong to? >> uhh -- >> oh, man. >> maybe it doesn't matter. more when the five returns. hi honey, did you get e toaster cozy? yep. got all the cozies. [ grandma ] with n fedex one rate, i could ll a box and ship it r one flat rate. so i kn untilt was full. you'd be crazy not to. is tt nana? [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the

. >>> on this day in america, this happens -- >> from jasper farms. tell them what you're doing? turkeys. >> no one left instructions, a pass for northwest entrance. >> dropping off the turkeys. where should i put them? >> cjs office. cj craig's office. cj right here. handles all the bird. cj. >> what's next for me in the week of unendurable thanksgiving nonsense. >> hi, cj. >> hi, carroll. [ turkeys gobbling ] >> oh, yeah, the turkeys came. >> wait, wait, wait. wait, wait, wait. i'm coming. the turkeys came. >> so carol said. >> they said they should go in your office. >> turkeys. >> turkeys for what. >> you weren't here last year? >> when? >> over thanksgiving. you were sick. >> every year on thanksgiving the president pardons a turkey. >> pardons a turkey? >> why are there two turkeys? >> sorry? >> why are there two turkeys? >> customarily, the press secretary decide which of the two finalists is more photegenic. >> their names. >> i don't want to know their names. >> this one is eric. this one is troy. >> eric and troy. >> yeah. >> i'm to choose the more photo jenni i genic t

jasper who has grown up on twitter.ht i would take a look to see how much my feuding partner here in twitter, how much he would be owed and it is $53,000. >> because i don't drive people crazy with pictures of your dog. dogs, dogs, dogs. >> you can find out how much twitter owes you. i'm washing in on my twitter account. >> cashing in. what a great transition. thank you dana perino. we are going destruct the big lies. take a look. >> the apology after the pledge. did president obama just join this club? >> no one in the white house staff, no one in this administration, presently employed was involved in this bizarre incident. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. >> all broken promises and backtracking. >> all right. go ahead. 11:30, dvr now. >> greg, now. >> let's see, i have three things. i hate these people. i hate these people! a lot of people ask me to do things because i'm a big tv star. they asked me to kell

. >> do you happen to have jasper's selfie loaded?hink so. >> that was the best. >> i wasn't allowed. i wasn't allowed. no. >> i thought greg would like selfies more because then you're not bothered more by people wanting to take your picture. you go no! and walk away. >> the now what the runner-up words? selfie, one. twerk. that's a dumb one. showrooming. >> showrooming. >> bitcoin. >> and bingewatching. >> is that when you eat a lot of watches and then throw them up? a lot of college kids are doing that. >> you can really tell time well. >> ruins plumbing. >> i'm going to read this thing again. i started to earlier. today is a very special day in american history. president abraham lincoln delivered his gettysburg address exactly 150 years ago. but how much do our kids actually know about honest abe? we're going to tell you. >> that he wasn't honest. >> what political party did abraham lincoln belong to? >> you know -- >> oh, man, i don't know. >> maybe it doesn't matter. >> okay, there's more when "the five" returns. so i tried dep

and a permanent garden that will include a continental large a jasper of boulders, featuring brass plaquesbearing the officers' names. >> close to a year after the shooting massacre at a school in newtown, connecticut. one of the first responders is still have a hard time with the memory of the tragedy. now, that police officer might lose his job after being diagnosed with post- traumatic stress. >> officer tom been since the tragedy at sandy hook elementary school left him with a long-term disability. he was actually off-duty the day of the shooting, but dropped everything and when he heard the call for help. the state does not cover posttraumatic stress, but he says that if he lost an arm or leg, he could retire with full medical coverage. >> the men and women of new town police department who did respond that they did their job. they lived up to their end of their contract. it is now time for the town to live up to their in. >> connecticut is one of just few states that do not cover the disorder. if taxpayers had to foot the bill for officer being is medical coverage, it could cost $350

. >> i learned this the hard way in vet school with jasper.g. >> he's an awesome dog. >> he got into ibuprofen and tylenol and aleave in my purse. i left it in my purse. >> they're kanded coated kind of. >> they were. >> very often they're drawn to that. >> exactly, he was in icu for several days because he had serious stomach bleeding. a lot of people don't realize that. actually, alleve is even more toxic than ibuprofen or advil is. a quarter tablet of naproxen, the active ingredient in alleve, could kill a dog willie here, ten-pound dog. >> shocking. and grapes and raisins? >> i know. that's a relatively new one. about ten years ago, we learn good that. we don't know what the cause is. -- learned about that. we don't know what the cause is or what the toxic dose is. even a small amount of raisins and grapes can be a huge problem. >> my dog just doesn't like grapes. >> good. we keep them -- i'm a mom. i keep raiseins in my purse. >> of course. >> that's an easy thing for them to get into. >> and sugar-free gum. a girlfriend of mine -- >> the

. >> dana perino, who is looking at her dog jasper a lot, the first thing out of her mouth is quoting> always thinking about our ratings. we'll see you at "the five." >> by the way, it's bob beckel's birthday. >> happy birthday. >> coming up straight ahead, brand-new video of the sink hole that swallowed a home. here is the thing, they told them about this sink hole while wrestling with insurers. >> then, it's a best selling book. will it translate to the silver screen? kevin mccarthy here next on whether the book thief is worth a trip to the movies this weekend. >> i'm about to meet the people. you shoulda taken it to midas. they tell you what stuff needs fixing, and what stuff can wait. high-five! arg! brakes, tires, oil, everything. (whistling) with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box. >>> welcome back. time for quick headlines. disturbing new information on the shooting at a los angeles international airport. geraldo hernandez, the tsa offi

. >> and the owner of jasper. >> if you don't follow dana on twitter, you should.at's the impulse to say the president didn't know. is it an effort to protect him? is it true? >> well, it's curious what they decide to protect the president from. there are some things you might want to tell the president like if there is some corruption scandal or something that is brewing and you don't want to get him involved in it. i could see that. protecting the president from his own signature initiatives, the thing he campaigned on, the thing he wants to take into his legacy, to not tell him that they knew a month before that the website wasn't going to work. i would have been mortified to have to go to the president the next morning and when he said, how did it go? sir, we had six people sign up. oh, six, pretty good. 6 million? no, sir. six. oh, 600,000? >> no, sir, six. that is mortifying. i think their excuse has worn thin. for a long time they used to blame bush. that became the butt of the "saturday night live" joke. now he doesn't know anything important. that's become