javier zamora, welcome to democracy now! honor to have you with us. >> thank you for having me. amy: before we talk about your own personal journey, which is so powerful and so important to understand, i'm wondering if you can were -- you can respond to what is happening come to president biden saying will be chaos of the water for a time, to the pandemic era trump title 42 being lifted tomorrow night at midnight and what this means? >> i think it has always been chaotic. i don't think this will fix anything. things will get worse. things are already really bad. i just can't help to think of all of the people waiting, all of the people that will continue to wait, and all of the people who are still fleeing for their lives from all over latin america and the world. i hope this presidency and any future presidencies will treat immigrants like actual human beings. amy: so let's talk about that journey that so many have taken through so many countries. you tell your own story. can you start by telling us about where you were bor