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jay walks. >> white house press secretary jay carny was greeted by music from his favorite band. >> that was good rock and roll, as if you didn't know. >> mr. canny's last day at that podium was wednesday. the announcement of his leaving came as a surprise last month, made by president obama himself who suddenly entered the white house press briefing room to proclaim that carny was at last moving on. >> in april, jay came to me in the oval office and said he was thinking of moving on and i was not thrilled to say the least. but jay's had to wrestle with this decision for quite some time. he's been on team since day one. >> and there was a hug between barack and jay. he thanked the white house correspondents with whom he often riddled. >> finally i want to say thank you to all of you here. this has been an extraordinary experience and i have loved every minute of every day, even the many minutes of many days i spent in this room. as i think most of you now understand and believe, it's always a pleasure, no matter how hard it can get in here, how hot it can sometimes be and contentious it

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tonight, jay carney for the hour. # >> charlie: jay carney is here, the white house press secretary, has served in that role since february 2011. he was previously dtéector of communication for vice president biden. he spent much of his career at "time magazine" including a stint as moscow correspondents during the collapse of the soviet union. his last position at the magazine is washington bureau chief. last week, president obama announced he accepted carney's resignation. >> one of jay's favorite lines is i have no personnel announcements at this time. but i do, and it's bittersweet. it involves one of my closest friends here in washington. in april, jay came to me in the oval office and said he was thinking about moving on, and i was not thrilled, to say the least. but jay's had to wrestle with this decision for quite some time, now. he has been on my team since day one, for two years with the vice president, for the past three and a half years as my press secretary. >> charlie: i am pleased to have jay carney back at this table. welcome. >> charlie, thank you. i'm glad to be her

he mixed it up with jay carney on his last day as press secretary yesterday. we'll ask him about that. >>> and later, don't miss a very special segment from the 2014 special olympics. andrea's going to have that to use, so stick around. >>> yesterday was jay carney's last day as press secretary. >> yea! >> eric. he went one more round with our very own ed henry. >> what happened to lois lerner? will the white house guarantee your work to find them? >> as the irs has said, ed, they're producing 67,000 e-mails sent or received from lois lerner. we asked if we would produce them. we did in fact do a search for all communications between lois lerner and any person within the executive office of the president for this period. we found zero e-mails, sorry to disappoint. >> white house correspondent is with us now. ed, does the white house have any idea the enormity of this story, and how arrogant that sounds that they looked and they have nothing, sorry to disappoint? >> well, look, they genuinely believe inside the white house that this is much ado about nothing. w

bring it in, jay jay? j jay jay watching the show. hi, jay jay cannon. >> little hot.on over to the desk. six, seven-layer pizza cake. >> oh! >> it looks like cake. >> it is beautiful. >> that's a pizza what kinds is it? >> it is bacon, green onion. bake fresh by anthony this morning. >> we saw his picture, you tweeted his picture. >> okay. so, from one baker to another, we'll cut this open. as we watch jen with favorite bakers. >> these are my new favorite bakers, not because they're sexy but mostly because they're sexy. first of all we have to say thank you and good hello to kathy, you guys have wives. you want to say hi. >> we say thank you and we appreciate what you d what was going down, supporting the families. >> here is the situation. cupcakes, everyone tries to make them at home, we don't want to buy 19-dollar cupcakes, i know yours are a lot less than. that will what's the number one thing we're doing wrong? >> number one thing in anything is over mixing. you know, when it comes out of the oven real flat or you can over whip anything, icing, chocolate chip co

and on jay carney stepping down as press secretary. joe remy says they all say a lot without saying anything but gravitas and humor can cover a multitude of sins. carney had neither and tough because he was once on the other side of those questions, but he did a good job under very difficult circumstances. >> bricks up a great job because that job is 24/7, have to be monitoring the news at all times and that gets tiring. >> and you're trying to do work for the president who employs you and at the same time keep the press co-happy which, of course, is impossible. an australian newspaper has published a photo of kate middleton's bare bum a day after a german magazine did the same thing. british papers refused to show a shot of her skirt that blew up by the helicopter and why should the media stick to an antiquated code of etiquette when kate doesn't protect her own modesty? why should the media expose some royal flesh for clicks. >> remember royalty said they had hem weights when they go out? do you know what a hem weight is? >> kind. >>

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. >> jay carney who we know is stepping down is answering questions. and we want to talk to brett more about the book and we'll see what jay has to say. >> it say top priority for the administration to do all we can to help business invest in the united states and support good jobs for the american workers. we can correct more jobs and more companies are choosing to bring job investment to the u.s. we have more reason. >> we'll go back to jay carney if he starts talking about sergeant bergdahl. >> what was your goal of writing a book about what you are going through with paul. >> helping families with tough time and hundred percent of the money goes to pediatric heart research. it just kind of happen and paced on e-mails. and it is a decent read and hopefully will raise a lot of money. >> we look forward to reading it. i love the picture of you and paul. and it is great to see you, brett. we'll be back to jay if he makes news and we have more news happening in washington d.c. >> good to see you brett and best to paul, of course. >> the obama industry a

this is a great map for residents and tourists and it's being donated by david wiggins and jay primus in his second role as a cartographer. it's been a labor of love for them, working on this map for over ten years. david wiggins is a professional cartographer, working at britannica andrand mcnaley and currently working at expedia and partnered with jay, who has been working on transportation for over 1 years -- 12 years and approached david and said these are things that i don't think that the industry is doing. why i am excited about it, it helps visualize the service hierarchy that we have been talking about over the last several years that came out of the tep planning process. and what that means in a nutshell is that at a glance customers can see where there is more service and where there is less service? which is a really important thing to communicate, when we're trying to drive people to our premium routes. some of the design features overall, i think you will notice that the map feels a lot less cluttered. so my staff's first reaction was what is missing? actually this map c

jay, it's a simple basic question. reads simply to me, they broke the law again, something they have done with regularity ask we discussed in detail. was the law obeyed or not? >> they did not follow the law. the law is clear that you give 30 days notice to -- from the secretary of defense to the various committees of congress that would be relevant to a decision like this and simply notice and certification that the people being released will not be place in a situation where they can do harm to the united states. the law was more stringent under previous administrations. it was loosened up in the defense authorization act that came out last year but the fact of the matter is the law is very clear. regardless of what your views are on this exchange and hard to argue with an american being released and coming home. the law required a 30-day notification. you know that these discussions were going on for more than 30 days. they had to notify and certify c congress. >> they have done this with congress, welfare, even jon

what do you do, jay?if, bill, they were never on because they were not proposerly appointed -- properly appointed. therefore, they are not officials of the nlrb, and the decisions made during that time frame were, when they were serving on the nlrb, the national labor relations board, are null and void because they weren't in effect. so what you've got is, basically, a reversal of those decisions because they had no authority to make those decisions in the first place. bill: still waiting on hobby lobby which, as you know, is a big one too, and maybe it could still come today, it's possible -- >> yeah. justice scalia's still reading from his concurring opinion on the last case, so it could be. bill: monday's the drop dead date, right? because that's the end of the session, june 30th. >> yeah. and they could decide to have a scheduled order day tomorrow, just make an orders list monday. we'll know that probably around 30 be minutes from now. bill: thank you, jay sekulow, appreciate it. martha: have you hea

that is where we find jay gray this morning. jay, what's the latest there. >> reporter: hey, good morning, betty. it's just overwhelming the devastation here. this is a snapped power pole here. and more debris, you can see the suv, or what's left of it there mixed in with other things. and another power pole on the ground and look back, a lot of the debris, what's left, is covered in mud after what a lot of people have described as an almost surreal attack from mother nature. >> oh, another -- there's the other -- >> reporter: at first glance, it almost seems like science fiction. twin tornados side by side in eastern nebraska, destroying everything in their path. but the raw power and devastation from the storm is all too real. >> the village of pilger is basically what we would say, the majority of the village is destroyed. >> reporter: at least two people are dead, close to two dozen injured after the twisters ripped apart the small farming community of less than 400. >> it's just unbelievable. because you're just kind of in

nbc bay area's jay gray is live in las vegas with new information coming out tonight. jay? >> reporter: good evening. you know, that killing spree started in a pizza restaurant around the corner, ended up in a walmart over my shoulder here. police have identified the young married couple. it's amanda and jared miller. they say they're responsible and that the couple wanted to start a bloody revolution here. neighbors say jared and amanda miller moved from indiana into this las vegas apartment complex in february. kelly lives next door to the couple and saw them leave early sunday morning. >> she hugged me. he hugged me and he said that he had to do what he had to do and the revolution has just begun. >> fielder said they were carrying at least five weapons. something they have done before. >> they said they used it for protection. because they were going into the underground. >> but on sunday, police say the weapons were used in a killing spree. las vegas police officer alyn beck and igor soldo were ambushed, killed while they were having lunch. >> they placed a flag, a don

that's what jay carney said and said they had health reasons. when this video came out earlier today. are we lied to a lot? >> the story keeps changing. you know, it was unfortunate sunday to see susan rice. yet again reading talking points and i got to say it makes you wonder, she did this after benghazi, her willingness to stand up and read talking points that very quickly thereafter have proven to be nowhere near resembling the truth and that is what is going on when administration keeps sending senior officials out to talk to the american people and say things that are false. that's troubling. it's also very troubling to know what kind of vetting did the white house do? for example, the white house in my view should release, should declassified the files on the gitmo five. if they say we should hand terroris terrorists, over, the american people deserve to know what they have done. i'll tell you wa yol you we're k they are considering releasing another guantanamo terrorist. i plan to file legislation to halt releases until we get to the bott

we showed them to the audience earlier and jay carney didn't know about the communications.ow do you have somebody in the white house, let him stand next to the president of the united states and not check the twitter feeds, see what he said? >> once again, the white house learns from the press like we do. they learn from press reports. they didn't do due diligence -- >> how will they investigate this family, this, you know, bowe bergdahl and with all due respect to him and his service. we owe it to the country to understand what situation we're in now. you used to work for an agency that did that. >> there are classified files on basically everything we used to joke around and say that. it's not necessarily an indicator of very much they may have been looking into what is going on. >> that's normal due diligence. >> there is possibility of a collaborator, whether we talk about that publicly or not and if you have somebody that may have been collaborating, very high offset at all times, they could have taught him trade craft to get around the investigative techniques to figu

in april, jay came to me and said he was thinking about moving on. i was not thrilled, to say the least. but, he has had to wrestle with this for quite some time. he has been on my team since day one. for two years but the vice president, with us as the press secretary. >> i am pleased to have jay carney back at this table. welcome. >> thank you. >> what was that moment like for you? >> i thought about it for a while. we wanted it to be a surprise. once i had gone to the president in april and had a sad but gratifying conversation about why it was time, with my children, and the age that they are, we decided the best way to do this was quickly and discreetly. and, wouldn't it be wonderful to surprise the white house press corps? we thought through this notion of them interacting the briefing and catch them off guard. it was still a tough moment. i realized what he was saying represented what i felt about this experience. the best thing about it has been in midlife to find myself amid all of these new people, focus on one thing, which is not self inte

that is where we find nbc's jay gray this morning. jay, can you tell us what the latest is? morning, dara. the sun coming up and really revealing the overwhelming devastation. a snapped phone and power poles like this one scattered about. look behind you. you can see some of the debris here. what's left of an suv there. we step over one of the utility poles. again, they're scattered all over the place. there's not a lot left in the path of the storm, but what is, everything just covered in mud right now. part of what so many here have called an almost surreal attack from mother nature. >> reporter: at first glance it almost seems like science fiction. twin tornados side-by-side in eastern nebraska destroying everything in their path. the devastation is all too real. >> the village of pilger is what we would say the majority is really just destroyed. >> reporter: at least two people are dead. los to two dozen injured. that's when the twister ripped aincorporate a small farming community of less than 400. >> it's just unbelievable. you're just kind of in a state of shock becau

. >>> jay carney as he leaves the white house, the donald slams one of his critics, but he mangled the facts. stay with us. h. h >>> here are your top tweets with your grades for hillary clinton's spots interviews. she filibustered every question and there was a lack of focus. willie davis, c for toughness of questions, a for finally showing an ounce of character, when interviewing a democrat. i give it a five on a scale of ten, spend too much time on benghazi and not enough time on her policy views. this is one word, superb. respectful, but too soft. she was well rehearsed and there were no surprise or really tough questions. >> and we talked about that earlier. a lot of conservatives say it was simply too soft. >> and i'm going to respectfully disagree. >> me, too. >>> in our press picks, this was over the line. donald trump punched back after a critic blair called the giant new trump sign on his skyscraper utterly out of character and grotesquely overscale. the donald ripped cayman on the "today" show. >> this has turned out to be a great piece of architecture, a great thing for chi

thanks, jay, for coming in. want to give you a chance to clarify a couple questions, detailed questions, about bowe bergdahl. there have been some conflicting things apparently said about his health. listen to what the national security adviser susan rice said on sunday on abc. >> he's now in landstuhl hospital, in germany, he's going through all of the requisite evaluations and care. and he is said to be walking and in good physical condition. >> all right, good physical condition. yet secretary of defense hagel said his health was in jeopardy and that's why the u.s. had to act quickly and didn't provide notification to congress. is he doing fine or not so fine? >> i think you're making a connection there that doesn't exist. point that the secretary defense made on behalf of the president is it was absolutely right thing to do, to seize the opportunity to recover bergdahl, because not doing so could potential he jeopardize his life. and that is obviously also the reason why it was important to act quickly and n

>> thanks, jay.n behalf of my colleagues, congratulations on making it to your last briefing. >> thank you. >> and on your post white house endeavors. if we can get to iraq, the president is meeting with lawmakers here in afternoon. is he going to be in a position to tell those lawmakers his decisions, and if he's not in that position, how much longer can he afford to wait to provide the iraqis with assistance given what officials here have said is the urgency and gravity of the situation? >> first of all, the president, as you noted, will meet at 3:00 p.m. with senate majority leader reed, senator minority leader mcconnell, speaker boehner and democratic leader pelosi at the white house as part of his ongoing consultations with congressional leadership on foreign policy issues, including obviously the situation in iraq. it's part of our ongoing consultations with congress on this issue. when it comes to the options that the president is considering, first of all, i want to make clear the president h

>> we're surprised, jay. beginning. >> actually, joe -- >> no. jay -- >> i have a long history with you guys. >> i know. you baited me into swearing on the air. so jay, it caught at lot of people by surprise on friday talking about your personal decision into makes this move. >> joe, you know, even working as i have now for five and a half years at the white house wasn't something i planned. i kind of fell into a job i loved working for the vice president the first two years as his communications director. then the president asked me to be his press secretary. that was three and a half years ago almost. and i got a couple of kids who are still pretty young. and five and a half years is a fairly long amount of time to be not fully present with your kids. so i went to the president in mid-april and said the time was coming when i would have to step away. we began a conversation that led to the announcement on friday. i'll tell you, it was pretty gratifying. we don't get to keep too many secrets around here. stu

jay, good morning. are you there? you've been following the story all this morning. what is next for bergdahl? >> reporter: good morning, richard. he begins the third phrase of his reintegration as doctors call it here in san antonio. it has been a long, difficult and controversial trip back, but as you talk about the former p.o.w., he is back on american soil now. the pentagon confirms sergeant bowe bergdahl traveled overnight from landstuhl regional medical center in germany to san antonio, where he'll begin the next phase of his reintegration, rehabilitation and recovery. army doctors say bergdahl is getting better physically, but needs more time to recover emotionally and psychologically after being held for five years by the taliban as a prisoner of war. >> my name is bowe bergdahl. >> reporter: during his captivity, he reportedly spent extended time in solitary confinement and endured repeated physical torture. as his treatment now shifts to san antonio, the firestorm of controversy over his release seems to be growing. there have been accusations by some inclu

cool jay wears my clothes. on video. kevin o'leary, said why don't i put it on a t-shirt. and put it out there. every shirt i sell, $5 royalty. >> jimmy: he is not an us, by the way. >> for us by us does not include canadian white people. >> good thing, i may have gotten to deal with barbara. she can't count. you start out with the small t-shirts. i remember a story, l.l. cool jay, wore a fubu hat. in a gap commercial. >> yes, yes. >> jimmy: he told me something about this. was that shug that you planned. >> you know the time. hip-hop was becoming popular. and i bleach the conversation, l.l. felt insulted when they called him, i want you to come in and rap and get people in the store. we thought rap was for african-americans. my daughter is 16 years old, white. and talking about fight the power and -- the police. maybe we want those people in the store. they asked l.l. to write the copy. >> jimmy: remember, a great commercial actually. >> it was. rapping fact. in the commercial he goes for us by us on the logo.

jay goltz is the head of the goltz group. he's a lead business blogger for "the new york times" and ben ha is the founder of cheeseburger a neatwork of websites dedicated to delivering funny content to 20 million unique users. so great to see both of you. >> thanks for having us. >> two serial entrepreneurs. let's dive right into the first question. it is about the possible perils of being inventive. >> how do you know when you're too innovative, when you are stretching beyond what your customers really can handle? you see that. you see they have the problem you can solve, and yet the innovation you have is just not quite within their reach of understanding. >> ben, you are in a world where innovation is a buzz word, and everyone is trying to be innovative, but is there a time when you're being too innovative? >> yeah, there's absolutely a time when this happens. many businesses fall into this trap. they're doing research that may be working out instead of doing business, and business is about doing something, generating reve

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military action and jay carney said that's possible.egone conclusion there will be u.s. military action? >> he may decide that iraqis do not have a strategy and he might not feel like using u.s. military force makes sense, right? >> the president will make decisions based on his view of what's in the best interest of the united states and our national security. we obviously have as the president said last friday a keen interest in the region because of the potential threat that safe haven for an extremist group could pose to the united states. that's why the president is considering a variety of options. >> considering, not necessarily going to move forward with u.s. military action. interesting because earlier jay carney said any potential u.s. military action would happen if it was supporting a strategy by. it's unclear whether they are ready for that reform. whether the president moves forward with action or not is an open question mark. >> what a mess. a lot to deal with. he has said he will not commit boots to the ground in iraq an

listen to this exchange between republican congressman mike rogers and the home land security jay johnson. why aren't we putting them on a bus like we normally do and send them back down to guatemala. >> because the law requires that i turn it over to hhs.

and jay carney as well. now to hailey, idaho. the tweet that i mentioned earlier, apparently, reportedly sent by sergeant bergdahl's father, reading, as i said, i'm still working to free all guantanamo prisoners. god will pay for the death of every afghan child. what do you know about it? did that in fact come from the father? >> we tried to double-check with the bergdahl family today, whether or not that indeed came from bob bergdahl. they were told by the military spokesman who works with the family that they would have no comment on it. but bob bergdahl has been tweeting for some time and he used it as an avenue to gather intelligence. gather information. at times communicate with people. send messages. friends of the family say he has done this always with the hope of creating sympathy with his son and to save his son. obviously that tweet quickly deleted apparently after sent out it is causing a great deal of criticism about bergdahl tonight. >> all right. we will have more from all of you late are on in the broadcast. miche

white house press secretary jay carney is moving on. >> in mid life you don't often make a whole new set of friends, not just friends but people you would fight by and for under any circumstance. that's certainly what i have been lucky enough to get over these past five and a half years. it's been a privilege and it continues to be a privilege. every day in here with you has been a privilege. >> every day? >> more often than not people say you have the hardest job or you have one of the hardest jobs. i'm not saying it's easy every day, but i love it. it's an important interaction that takes place here. it's not always pretty. it could certainly be better, but it's -- to be a part of it is an honor and a joy for me. and no matter how tough the briefing is, i walk out of here having been glad to stand here. >> every sunday we ask our great reporters to share something from their notebooks. first i want a few words to describe the departing white house press secretary jay carney who just on friday announced he was leaving. >> it's not a total surprise because it is a gruelling thankless

i refer to jay carney as baghdad carney. after a year they may have to go to. they can get phone calls for money and get people all pumped up. they can do -- >> they could vanish. they can do a lot of damage just by sitting in offices and doing what they do. i'm sure they're going to do that. >> if jay carney said they're safe, that is a lie. idea they're going to be in prison and we'll be watching them? that is a lie. none of this is true. >> obama says this is what happens at the end of wars. you can stop prisoners. >> war is the war. imagine if we had in our custody, would we send them back to germany? >> no. >> in 1943 or wait until the war is over before you swap prisoners? >> isn't this the philosophical divide the president doesn't recognize radical islamic terrorism is a real, clear and present danger to the united states? >> i think that we have to give him credit for things that have been done like the drone program. there is another report today, not only are the former guantanamo bay detainees free to go around q

. >> juan, it is fair to say looking at those sound bites we just listened to jay carney was wrong when he said two rogue agents in cincinnati were responsible for this and the president was wrong when he said it was bone headed decisions out of a local office and then he went on the say there's not even a smidgen of corruption. >> again, it's a difference between bone headed decisions -- >> we've seen the emails that take to it the washington. >> what we're seeing is there was oversight. they are trying to figure out how to make sure that these tea party, tea patriot, these various new groups don't abuse irs regulations in terms of claiming that they are nonprofits and tax exempt. and they then i think took a shortcut is what we know for the record that they made bad decisions and said we're going to flag anything that's called tea party or patriots, et cetera. this whole idea we're now to watergate and burning tapes, i mean that, you have to -- that's quite a leap for me. >> it's a leap. not only lois lerner's hard