i know you have been shaking your head as you listen to jay carney. first, do you support the boehner bill and during this briefing, we are hearing from jay carney this bill is d.o.a. if it gets to the senate. what is your response to that? >> it's very set. yes, i do support the boehner bill. let me tell you why. it begins to get the long-term problems of the nation, how we are going to spend structural issues. this has spending caps in it, it has a focus on the house and senate voting on a balanced budget amendment, it deals with discretionary spending. the other thing that really frustrated me with jay carney saying we need a compromise bill, how this bill came to be is we passed cut, cap and balance. the senate refused to even pick it up. so the speaker and harry reid sat down together over last weekend, worked out a compromise between their ideas, what came out of the biden commission and our ideas, and put together a compromise bill and right when we brought it out, the president contacts harry reid and says oh, no, you don't, you won't cut me o

my interview with jay carney. and stocks fell, dow lost 91 1/2, s&p 500 dropped 51/2, the nasdaq gave back three 3. the effort to get back to the operation that put guns in the hands of criminals resumed on capitol hill. william la jeunesse, whether that effort was successful. >> this is one of the most shameful moments, i think in our government's history. this is one of the saddest days in my six months in congress. >> looking for answers and accountability members of congress got little of either tuesday in their fast and furious investigation. >> special agent newell, what were you thinking? i think that's what we're all scratching our heads about here today. >> this is the moe, curly and larry show, we're looking for larry. are they lying or are you lying? >> sir, this investigation we did not let guns walk. >> you're entitled to your opinion know the to your facts. >> agent in charge william newell repeatedly evaded questions. >> how many hundreds or thousands of weapons did you allow to be purchased knowing

you see jay carney has stepped to the podium.isten to what he's saying. >> a coordinated national program to improve fume efficiency for cars and light-duty trucks for mod tell years 2017 to 225. this program which build on the historic agreement achieved for model years 2012-2016 will result in significant cost savings for consumers at the pump. cut pollution and create jobs. that is friday. i know we all look forward to some other kind of news story to cover. i'm sure you will be all over that. separately i want to say we are obviously paying a lot of attention. we are clearly, to the process ongoing that must by necessity result in some sort of compromise so we do not for the first time in our history lose our borrowing authority and risk default. the president made clear the way to do that is a reach a compromise. we still firmly believe that the compromise is essential and possible. i would note that when we look at the various pieces of legislation on the hill, and with ther or not they are -- whether or not they are vehicl

it's just going to be jay carney, sorry about that. jay carney speaking today.kristen, you're at the white house, but explain what we should expect when it comes to so much of the rhetoric on the democratic side about whether or not the president should be using the 14th amendment. >> reporter: hi there, thomas. well, you know, that's been an idea bandied back and forth for a couple of weeks now. white house officials just this morning pushing back against that option. they say they just don't think it's a viable option. president obama himself addressed it the end of last week during a town hall meeting when he said he'd actually consulted his counsel about this, and they just don't think it's a winning argument. now interestingly, former president bill clinton said he would have no problem using the 14th amendment in this type of a situation, but the white house standing firm saying that this is something that they have to get done with congress, anfç white house officials telling me this morning that they are confident that they will get done by that august 2

jay core any at carney dated . >> i thought jalen mow said but that is jay carney. >> greta: does he have a plan? >> no. you know why republicans are having a problem is that we are trying to solve a problem by ourselves and that is not fair to the republican party. >> greta: what is his -- if he doesn't have a plan, i admit i haven't seen it. >> he doesn't want to make anybody mad. he won't lead greets bahar is the purpose of sending jay carney out there if there isn't a plan? >> because he can get away with it. in this town nobody is holding him accountable like we are holding each other accountable. i love john mccain. we have a difference here. i do believe the balanced budget amendment could pass if we have enough time to take the case to the american people. there are 20 democratic senators on record saying i support it. i would like to have a couple of months to run ads in those states and run rallies in the state and say to the democratic senator don't say things if you don't mean it. there are the votes in the senate if we go after them. in 1997 we failed by one vote in the

and as the president waits to see what his play may be, his messenger jay carney was steadfast that the white house remains in the winning position. the same side as most americans who simply want compromise. >> one thing that is clear, dan, is that on the suggestion that this is about politics, i don't believe that anybody who has looked at a poll could disagree with the idea that we are winning this based on the merit, but the president is not here to win political arguments, but he is to make sure that the economy and the american people are protected. >> and this vote is anything but a sure thing with many rank and file members of the tea party persuasion firmly against their own speaker. let's get right to it. joining us from capitol hill democratic congressman peter welsh of vermont. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. >> we had a press conference of republicanss proposing a bipartisan bill. is it? >> well, saying it is doesn't make it so. the real question here about bipartisanship is that the democrats are willing to make cuts and the republicans make revenues and the answer

what do you make of that statement from jay carney, senator? >> i think the white house is out of the picture now. i think what we must do in congress is put together a package between the democrats and republicans in congress and send it to the president for signature. jon: i've always heard that, you know, compromise leaves almost nobody happy. it seems like a lot of democrats aren't particularly happy with what's in the boehner bill but a lot of republicans aren't particularly happy with it either. does that potentially make it a good thing? >> i think that with the time deadline we're facing so close that none of us are going to be completely happy with what goes through. i do think we have a common goal of raising the debl ceiling with significant cuts, dollar for dollar cuts. i think that basis is the same among democrats on the senate and republicans in the senate. so i think we have a basis to move forward, that a cut for cut debt ceiling lifting can go forward. but then we have the opportunity before the end of the year under the propo

jay carney. you're keeping hope alive. thank you, jay, for coming on "hardball." >>> the executive editor of politico. i used up all my good time. let me ask you this. is this true. are we all on the same team or is there a real banded operation going on in the right in the republican house? >> i don't know who's on who's team but i'll say deep division inside the republican party. a bloc led by presentative jordan and other conservatives who campaigned and won elections in 2010 on this who don't want to increase the debt limit unless they know absolutely they're getting previcely what they want on capping federal spending. others, john boehner, mitch mcconnell. some of the presidential candidates, some of the chairman who feel strongly the last thing you can do is default. they want some sort of deal. that's why speaker boehner's been negotiating with the president on this. there is a deep divide, in essence, republicans should be happy they're winning the debate. the end deal will be all about cutting spending. the precis

also in the press briefing, jay carney said that the bill being worked on right now is d.o.a. when it reaches the senate. >> yes, that is right. hello, thomas. good afternoon to you. he said it is d.o.a. and 58 senators have said they will come out to vote against it and he reiterated the call that the white house is not going to get behind anything that is not a long-term increase of the debt ceiling. but you know, people have been pushing this on this saying that past presidents have increased the debt ceiling for periods of six months much like the boehner plan would. earlier today on msnbc, dan pheifer addressed this very issue. take a listen. >> there are lots of short term debt ceiling increases in the past, but they were done in a place where it was not, where one party did not use it as an opportunity to extract their entire policy agenda or by holding the economy captive. >> reporter: now the pressure is ramping up on the president and also on congress to get something done here. in fact, some ceos of the banks have just released this letter, and we want to read part

kristen, jay carney, the white house press secretary says that he does not believe that the default will happen. as we hear from the two sides both agreeing that the debt limit needs to be raised, it is inevitab inevitable. >> it is the one thing that all sides can agree on here, and you are right, the press secretary jay carney says he has complete faith that the debt ceiling will be raised by next week, but the big question that everybody is asking is how is this going to happen, because it seems that all sides are digging in the heels and the white house continuing to insist that the president would veto a short term plan which is that plan put forth by speaker boehner that is as kelly mentioned would increase the debt ceiling in increments for the first time for six months, and press secretary jay carney, again, today saying that the president would veto that if it made it to his desk, and carney saying that bill would doubtfully pass the senate, but the president said in the remarks last night he does support the plan put forth by reid which would of course, decrease the deficit by

white house press secretary jay carney addressing new evidence of an anti-fox news bias inside the obamate house. a conservative watch dog group uncovered evidence showing the administration took a hostel position against this news channel. fox news chief correspondent jim angle has more. >> reporter: in his first few months the obama administration sought to exclude fox news from kenneth wine guard. claims it was a mix take, but. >> we filed a freedom of information act request from 2009 and didn't get a response until last week, well over 18 months later. after first offering interviews to just the three biggest networks, officials decided to expand access to include cnn and possibly other cable networks, but not fox. the director of broadcast media at the white house shown on the right wrote to a treasury press officer let me know which cables we add and we prefer if you skip fox, please. it's not clear who the "we" refers to, but that wish was initially honored. >> low and behold fox gets skipped and once it out there, you see the suggestion it's just a misunderstanding. >> the day a

>> i'm sure it's not welcome to jay carney, but it's good journalism, you don't let somebody give a pat answer to a real question, and if they won't answer, you go back and you ask it again, or a second time or a third time or a fourth time. >> most transparent white house in history, so they claim, has yet to produce a budget. >> the minute you make a dig like that, the minute you're not going to answer a kwechlt you stick to what the issue is and you know you're both playing equal, but the fact he has to make a dig at him as if he's doing something wrong, shows that he's on to something. >> this is appointed aggressive line of questioning, not know where near out of bounds to, but for him to use that as an excuse to go after the fox thewes channel, there are other reporters, some of them who do take appointed aggressive approach with carney. he never singles out their networks, but he did to fox. >> jon: we have to take a break. first, if you want to keep up the media stories, go to our website, watch list section. up next, is it important how the media label a killer? >> terror strik

martha: jay carney is presenting this as a waste of time.g here goes the house passing something they know is not a compromise and will not pass and will not get us anywhere. john boehner is saying this is the second pill we passed the while everybody has been talking about this ad nauseam, we have gotten two bills through our side. >> reporter: assuming it gets through. it goes over to the senate and you are right. it would be the second bill, cut, cap and balance being the first bill. it could be the only vehicle. here is what happens -- it's a little bit in the weeds bear with me. it goes to the senate. senator reid put up for tabling it. no normal parlance back and forth that would might's essentially dead. but this has a special december is nation -- as a special decembespecialdesignation. then you have a situation where boehner's bill is tabled, reid's bill is not getting through the senate. speaker boehner has a bill in his back pocket called military construction. and it has passed the senate. so in a dire situation, speaker boehner

the white house presecretary jay carney joins me now. i can imagine the white house is pretty busy right now. how are you seeing the next few days playing out? it seems to neutral observers that we were watching a high stake game of brinksmanship last night. somebody has to blink, don't they? >> wshlg look, piers, the reason the president spoke to the nation last night. he fell it was very important that the american people understand what is happening here in washington. a lot of times the debates we here sound like food fights. and people go about their business and just assume that in the end, washington will do the right thing to make sure that the government continues to function and that we maintain the full faith and credit of the united states. that go to the heart of the matter. as you mentioned, we are moving fast toward a deadline beyond which the united states will no longer have borrowing authority. if that were to come to pass for the first time in our his trirk interest rates would go up. a lot of bad thing would happen. w

very interesting today that jay carney called that a preposterous suggestion. that president obama stormed out of that meeting, but there you are the perception none the less, and of course, republicans are eager to knock down the notion that the president has put forward, and a lot of people are willing to buy he is undergoing some political pain here in the name of compromise to defy democrats in the cutting of entitlements and social security and other programs that are so cherished. jay carney also saying today, don't expect a hallelujah moment today and tamping down the expectations today. they are going to be talking about taxes and revenues as they call them here in washington. and carney saying that tomorrow is a big day and everybody has to either come to an assessment that we can do a significant deal and they were talking of course of the $4 trillion deal until the republicans pulled the plug on that last weekend, and they have to come in friday, and friday is shaping up to be something of a deadline, and meanwhile, tim geithner, the treasury secreta

releases the needles to say jay carney shut up ed henry or your guy that i used to always scream at the t.v. that little weasel when he was on c.n.n. and you could of those the white house for putting fox so-called news in its place the bad stuart varney or absurdity at fox the fox so-called news talking head took on george soros this morning on fox and friends after soros of the public interest ought to prevail over his own self-interest a seemingly reasonable comment barney went nuts. with the public interest story point that while there to be talking about the public interest on your show if you try to fix visit here so yeah i just want to i do not like the billionaires socialists who hate america and try to make money out of our rude i don't like that ok i think barney is confused he must be talking about the koch brothers not george soros unless you're sir as was begging to be taxed more and support policies that cost him money but improve the nation of course koch brothers generally support policies that make themselves rich at the expense of us that's one of the significant diffe

. >> reporter: at the white house this morning, press secretary jay carney said that was not going to happen. >> what i know about speaker's proposal in the house right now, is that there are already 55, 56, 57, 58 senators-- democrats and republicans-- who oppose it. it ain't going anywhere in the united states senate. we need to start doing things that can actually pass both houses and be signed into law. >> reporter: the senate's top democrat majority leader harry reid piled on. >> republicans cannot get the short-term band-aid they will vote on in the house today. it will not get one democratic vote in the senate. all 53 members of the senate democratic caucus wrote to the speaker last night to tell him they will not vote for it. >> reporter: reid later announced the senate would take up boehner's plan immediately following the house vote and pledged again to defeat it. reid has put forward his own proposal that would cut the deficit by $2.2 trillion over the next decade, with about half the savings coming from the winding down of military operations in iraq and afghanistan. and,

and i thought, you know, jay carney must want to kick him out of there.room. >> jay carney was there yesterday. maybe he didn't want to be. because this is what happened. >> what was the point of giving a primetime address to the nation without an obama plan? >> why not just release that plan? >> it's not a plan. >> it was details of the plan but it wasn't a plan the same way we're getting a plan on the house side or that we're getting a plan on the republican side. >> we don't know what the medicare thing is. >> there wasn't. there was a lot -- >> he talked in great detail about what's in medicare and you know. >> why not put it out there? >> initially ed henry who is new to fox asked the question, why did he have this primetime address without a plan? what's interesting is the other reporters asked the same question. jay carney originally tried to make it like it was a fox question. >> which is funny to me. ed henry is a long established fantastic reporter in washington. he had been a print reporter. he had worked for another network. when i was press s

number one, when asked about thursday and friday, jay carney said there was nothing on the schedule. that, to me is, a sign that they're holding back because they could cancel that fundraiser and then he would be here on thursday and friday dealing with the economic fall-out. number two, at that auto event that you were talking been about on fuel efficiency somebody came up to the president and said basically look i'm from chicago and you still owe me a poker game, the president said look, i'm engaged in a high stakes poker game right now. not certain he is going to worry about playing poker with this guy. that gives you an idea. valerie jarrett one of his top advisors did an interview saying the president is not sleeping a lot. this is weighing on him. this is a big, big deal. he has had a lot of important moments in his presidency. there is a lot riding on this moment right now, laura. >> laura: all right. well, when we come back, i want to get more from both of you, james. i want to talk about the presidential contenders out there. we haven't heard from a lot of them. although mic

. >> body language takes a look at bristol palin promoting her new book and jay carney telling reporters not to yell questions at the president. >> this is a matter. >> i'm not stage. >> got to watch yourself out there. >> a wild miller segment tonight. the wild scenes from his most recent factor appearances. caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, im i'm bill o'rei. michele bachmann gets a headache. the subject of this evening's talking points memo. campaigning for the presidency is fruit with danger. have to have security where you go because violent people are everywhere. and then there is the press which may not be violent but certainly there are many nuts in the media especially with all the hand held cameras, after michell michele bachmann. is website reporting she is taking medication for migraine headaches. abc news current brian ross tried to ask the congress woman about the headache deal and if it affected her work on the hill. >> i asked her about the votes and she wouldn't answer a question. she read a statement and walked a

jay carney, the white house press secretary.e president is doing right now to deal with this crisis. i must say, as you know, it is a crisis. >> it is, and wolf, on a much lighter note, i want you to stick around for this next store are i. i'm embarrassed this has been stuck in hi head all day. ♪ statutory budget restraints raise the debt ceiling raise the debt ceiling ♪ >> he's not doing the dougy. >> i was saying i don't know if you can dougy to this song. >> i could certainly dougy to this song. he's just doing an excellent job with a little wrapping. you know what my song of the day today is? >> what's that? >> and you're probably too young to remember this one. but "it's the end of the world as we know it". >> and i feel fine? r.e.m. >> i'm worried about what's going on. it's the end of the world as we know it. >> wolf, you can talk r.e.m. i'm going to talk about this guy who's a star on youtube. on the. how does it do that? well, to get there, a lot of complicated engineering goes into every one. like variable valve timing

today, fox news white house correspondent ed henry challenged white house spokesman jay carney. >> whatas the point of giving a prime time address to the nation without an obama plan and say neither of these other plans can work? where is my -- >> the idea that there is no obama plan. >> there is not one on paper. >> is point number one on the talking points issue by the republican party. i get it? >> there this is not a talking points. show us the plan. >> it's not a talking points. it's unfair. >> bill: joining us now from washington with his take on the political madness charles krauthammer. >> so, let's look ahead here. i mean, you saw henry, the new guy at the white house for us. he asked a valid question. i mean, president obama goes on nationwide tv prime time, disturbs some people out of their slumber, and he doesn't have any plan. i just saying to myself, is this as absurd as it seems? is it? is it the twilight zone? >> well, i think the obama administration just that jay carney remark tells you how detached from reality they are. here is henry asking a perfectly logical questi

same way, though it should matter is when the white house press secretary jay carney comes out and says president is showing leadership by not offering any plan. now he is not showing leadership. he is ducking because he doesn't want to put any of his own proposals out there. >> bob: the scariest number, this is the "washington post"/abc poll. accurate. a lot of us use it over the years and pretty consistent. one number, the republicans, not that their own people turning off but independents. right now the independents are tough for barack obama to pull back in. >> andrea: true. >> greg: can we go to the live shot of the white house. >> bob: another squirrel. >> greg: i saw another girl limping along. very exciting. we're going to get an exclusive with the squirrel. isn't the problem with this poll, i'm not an expert. i hate polls. you can read them like tea leaves arved see whatever you want in them. they weren't registered voters. they were just adults, right? it doesn't matter. am i right about that? >> bob: the poll is of adults. correct. >> greg: not registered voters. >> bob: when

yesterday press secretary jay carney tried a new one. let's listen. >> we need to -- need to talk, consult, narrow down what our options are and figure out in fairly short order, you know, which train we're riding into the station. right now there are multiple trains heading towards the station. several trains have left the station. it's a decision about which train we'll be riding when we get to the next station? >> the food analogies just weren't working out. >>> next, former campaign manager david plouffe is caught dishing out words of wisdom to the other side. nick heirs for pawlenty recounts what happened when they crossed paths recently. let's listen. >> the most real assessment of what i would be dealing with came from david plouffe who pulled me aside at the white house correspondents' dinner and said i want to congratulate you on your job. did a good job in 2010. i can't wish you the best cut can tell what you the next year or two of your life would be like. okay. what's that? a lot of people will tell you you're going to have a

press secretary jay carney, he was the person this came from.gnaled that the president would go for a short-term debt limit increase as long as it's part of a long-term deficit reduction deal. the president had previously said that he opposed any kind of short-term extension. we all remember he said i'm not going to go for a 30-day deal or a 60-day deal or 180-day deal. mike emanuel joins us from the white house with the latest on this, and we expect a meeting this afternoon on all of this. >> reporter: later this hour key democratic congressional leaders will be here at the white house for a meeting with president obama. i just saw budget director jack lew walk by, undoubtedly here for that high-profile meeting undoubtedly to see where key democrats are in terms of talks coming out of the hill on a way forward. to clarify, jay carney said that, essentially, if it was required to get a major deal done, the president would agree to a bit of an extension, but there have been questions about whether there's time to get something major done like thi

here is fox white house correspondented henry and press secretary jay carney in this exchange momentsbasically have this boehner plan that you say can't get through the senate and you have a replan that the republicans don't think can get through the senate and the house and you're saying you want to compromise. what was the point of giving a prime-time address to the nation without a obama plan. >> i understand the idea that there is not an obama plan. >> there is not, there is not one on paper. >> it's point number one on the talking point issues by the republican party, i get it. >> it's not a talking point. show us the plan. it's not a talking point, that is unfair. >> first of all the president put forward in tee tail his principles at george washington university. he went into a lot of detail. the president stood before you. i can't remember if you were here friday night, some of you were, but a lot of you cut out early [oh ] >> he put in detail with numbers what he's willing to do. he then referred from the podium to the fact that white house officials would be briefing in deta

now jay carney says it's not a hard deadline so, get ready for weekend talks, shep?ody. mike emanuel at the white house. hope they don't make you work. one republican pushing for even bigger spending cuts. $9 trillion worth of saving over 10 years. trillions. remember when a billion was a big number. oklahoma senator tom coburn says he would slash a trillion dollars from the pentagon budget plus another 2 trillion from other domestic programs and save another trillion by changing the tax code but you know he would not raise taxes. no. instead, he would end tax breaks like mortgage deductions for the most expensive homes and all vacation homes. senator coburn says the changes could actually lead to lower tax rates. >> the fact is doing nothing is a tax increase. a benefit cut for seniors and the poor and the betrayal of our values. the american people get it. congress is like a guy who has six credit cards and is going to get the 7th one so he can make the minimum payments on the other six. >> shepard: , this is all politicking. senator coburn even he says he doesn't

jay carney, we saw in the sound bite earlier said, yeah. conceded a couple of weeks ago, it would be irresponsible as we approach this deadline not to start thinking about how to prioritize that. part of this is that they want to keep the pressure on lawmakers and not give them any out or sort of alter the dynamic of this debate in any way, shape or form. >> just from an information standpoint. the way a conversation like this goes basically is the reason the bond markets and the financing markets are always open and we can always borrow money, the interest on the debt is always the first thing we pay. look at the triage. they're basically guaranteeing the bond holders get paid the interest and the military gets paid and then you start to get into what do we do with social security, medicare and everything else. is that fair where are the we've heard the figure $70 million, the government writes, veterans benefits, right on down the line. again, you know, i asked jay carney this directly today at that briefing. i asked him you know, as we g

press secretary jay carney just said it only adds urgency to get a deal done. very quickly lawmakers will be work throughout the weekend to get a deal done. both parties will be meeting with the president on sunday. that question remains how is this going to impact the debt ceiling. the white house saying the sooner we have the deal the better it will be for job growth. >> those crucial 72 hours became a little more crucial because of those numbers. thank you. for a look at how the markets are reacting to those numbers let's bring in cnbc's melissa francis. >> i'm looking at the nasdaq bun 1%, the s&p down 1.. the dow the down triple digits. all the sectors getting hammered. everything is lower including oil. that's the one bright spot. it's getting hit because traders are anticipating slower growth in the economy, we're seeing crude oil down more than $2 on the day. i had the ceo of wd-40 on a little while ago. he asked him if he's hiring. he said, yes. he said big businesses are getting blamed for not hiring, what's holding it back. he said first of all, he i

whitehouse reaction came from the president's spokeman jay carney. >> this is not a preferred optionhe president is firmly committed to significant cut in spending, and to dealing with our deficit and debt problems in a balanc way. he's been saying every y in ese negotiations, these talks with congressional leaders and he will say again today, this afternoon when they meet that as they essentially assemble the buildinglocks for possible coromise in terms of cutting spendi, reforming entitlements potentially and obviousl finding savings in the tax code, bigger is better. >> charlie: how much everyone in washington knows time is running out on a bipartisan deal. tim geithner said the u.s. will default on its debt obligations on august 2nd. in the last this hours, president obama and ben bernanke have warned of dire conseqnces if no deal is reached. >> i think the worst outcome if you don't raise the debt limit at some point, that we default on the debt and that would create, as i said before, a huge financial calamity which in turn would affect everybody and would set job creation back