the other half is reopening the government, and jay carny wend around. the big sticking opinion, can john boehner pass this with republicans and the other big one will the president go along if it's just lifting the debt ceiling. jay carnie finally said, yes, the president would approve just extending the debt ceiling while they talk about things. that's a retreat for the president and boehner. the president said he is not going gunshot with a gun to his head. if he said, just deal will default but not re-opening the government, he is talking to republicans and negotiating something he said he wasn't going to do. >> shepard: mike now we're hearing from a couple of republicans -- i don't no who they are -- up named republican senators who say, let's re-open the government, too, or put that on the table. do you know who those senators are? >> i've spoken to multiple senators who are apprehensive. six weeks is not terribly long in washington, dc so by saying you're going to extend the debt ceiling six weeks, it's going to come up right before thanksgiving a

white house spokesman jay carnie saying both men agreed to keep talking. he also restated the president's position to broader budget and deficit reduction talks during a shutdown and default threat prompting this from cnn's jim acosta. >> you said the position hasn't changed on the shutdown. the position hasn't changed on the debt ceiling. how is that negotiating? >> jim, look. the president has had constructive conversations with house and senate republicans. he's also had very good conversations with house and senate democrats. his position that it's unacceptable to demand a ransom from the american people in return for not defaulting, it's not going to change. >> the question now, what's going to give or maybe who's going to give or cave. polling keeps getting worse for the gop and every day the shutdown affects more and more people. dana bash, jim acosta covering it all for us tonight. dana bash first on capitol hill. are the sides any closer do we know? >> reporter: they certainly don't appear that way. i can tell you the house speaker has now left th

>> reporter: he was very -- jay carny was clearly open to the idea of this short-term debt ceiling bill to increase the debt ceiling for six weeks. where he was looked like intentionally squishy, to use a technical term on the issue of the government shutdown. we heard from republican leaders, talking to republican sources, and they made clear their position is that this whole debt ceiling idea is predicated on the fact that they will then immediately begin to sit down and talk and among the first things they will do in those bipartisan negotiations is figure out a way to reopen the government. when it comes to the government shutdown we might be in a chicken or egg situation, which is going to come first. those things have to be worked out. as jay carney was speaking, i spoke to a republican leadership source who is trying to clarify what exactly this so-called clean debt ceiling bill would be. i'm told, when looking at the actual legislative language, there is going to be one condition and that condition will be to take what are known as extraordinary measures away from the treasury s

now obama's press secretary jay carnie says that the company is an example of a business that has grown in recent years because interest rates have developed and been very low and businesses have been able to borrow money cheaply to expand. the president met with congressional leaders today to find common ground but there was no problem at the meet -- progress at the meeting. if the shutdown continues for any length of time and the government detalls on the debt ceiling in two weeks it would harm small business. massachusetts lou's employs about -- m. louise employs about 200 people. the company saved thousands of miles of road and highways and does a lot of very big projects in maryland and other states. they are the type of projects that could be put on hold by state and local government if the states do put the projects on hold because of no money coming from the federal government. the president will get here around 10:30 right here near the heart of rockville. coming down this way expect traffic delays. reporting live in rockville, roosevelt leftwich, abc2 news. >>> before going on

jay carny insisted that come october 15th, based on the statement of treasury secretary jack lew, weave to use cash on hand to pay the nation's bills, other economies say you yao could goo to the end of october before you hit the wall. the point the president is trying to make he doesn't want to test whether it's october 17th, the 25th, the 31, he believes it would be catastrophic economic consequences and there's not point in testing that all out. let's get a deal today. i don't think we're ready to have a deal today. they've edged closer but have taken a step back. >> thank you very much. >> the democratic congressmap -- congressman from 'wisconsin. i was surprised at the rather fiery language used by democratic leadership, talking about ransom. those fiery language. just doesn't seem to me to be a form of negotiation. it seemed to me to be a way of betting down your mitt cal opponents and, frankly, sir, seems to have worked. your comment. >> well, it seems like where the negotiations are right now is on the senate side. senate republicans are willing to put forth a deal. we haven'

. >> joining me now, white house press secretary, jay carnie. thank you for joining me. what guarantees were given off to the president that obama care and its system were ready to go live and who gave them? >> well, there is a lot of fascination obviously with pointing the finger of blame for the fact that, that the website associated with the affordable care act has not been performing as effectively as it should be. no one is more frustrated by that than the president, as he said earlier today in the rose garden. but of the fact is, this is -- a significant enterprise. and -- the problems that we have seen were not anticipated. we knew there would be glitches. we knew there would be some trouble. but, neither the president nor his senior team knew that we would see the kind of trouble we have seen thus far which is why the president has insisted on, making sure that, that some of the best minds in the country when it comes to the, the kind of subjects are being applied to addressing the problems. >> i want to a clip from first senator john mccain and senator ted cruz

although whatted they don't want to admit but did at mid today when i pressed jay carny, is the facthat the president repeatedly sold this law, if you currently have health insurance, you can keep your plan, no matter what. the president said that repeatedly without any cav -- caveat. today jay carney admitted that is no longer true. take a listen. >> from that podium will you admit that when the president said, if you have a plan, you'll get to keep it, that was not true? >> well, let's just be clear. what the president said and what everybody said all along is that they're going to be changes brought about by the affordable care act to create minimum standards of coverage. minimum services that every insurance plan has to provide. >> but the bottom line is, right now, there are 14 million people who buy their plan themselves because they don't get insurance through their employer. those folks are getting cancellation letters around the country. hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters going out. jay carney's opinion is, basically those folks will go into changes and get better

. >> joining me now, white house press secretary, jay carnie. thank you for joining me.ven off to the president that obama care and its system were ready to go live and who gave them? >> well, there is a lot of fascination obviously with pointing the finger of blame for the fact that, that the website associated with the affordable care act has not been performing as effectively as it should be. no one is more frustrated by that than the president, as he said earlier today in the rose garden. but of the fact is, this is -- a significant enterprise. and -- the problems that we have seen were not anticipated. we knew there would be glitches. we knew there would be some trouble. but, neither the president nor his senior team knew that we would see the kind of trouble we have seen thus far which is why the president has insisted on, making sure that, that some of the best minds in the country when it comes to the, the kind of subjects are being applied to addressing the problems. >> i want to a clip from first senator john mccain and senator ted cruz their reaction to what i

spokesman jay carnie has promised daty briefings from health and human services on all of the web site meantime, house republicans prepare for hearings tomorrow. and as we mentioned, a number of democrats began voicing concern and criticism. dana bash joins us now with all this. and dana, these democrats are making their displeasure known i think more than we've seen before. what can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right, they are. it is mostly democrats in the senate who are up for re-election next year. because they realize that politically they need to get in a place where they are aggressive in making their constituents know that they are as frustrated as they are. and jean sheheen, senator from new hampshire one of the 2014 democrats sent a letter to the president saying she thinks the ell the enrollment deadline should be delayed. she was joined by mark bagitch from alaska, mark pryor from arkansas all um for re-election next year. i was told by a democratic strategist in trying to re-elect democrats, the most vulnerable saying the same thing or even going further by the day's e

. >>> next a portion of today's white house briefing with press secretary jay carnie. he spoke about the president's phone call with john boehner. this is 25 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >>> good afternoon, everyone. thank you for being here and your patience. it's probably been a long afternoon, and i just wanted to i wanted to provide you with as much updated information as possible. i don't have an opening statement to make. in the interest of moving this along, i'll illustrate the questions. [laughter] well, i have -- i can answer some of your questions. it was the kind of information i hope to be responsive to your questions, at least in part that i sought and found. julie. >> reporter: can you tell us what the president and boehner discussed in their phone call? >> yes, i can. the president did call and speak with speaker of the house this afternoon, not long ago. had a good conversation, and the two of them agreed that all sides need to keep talking on the issues here that are confronting us that have lead to shut down of the government and to the situatio

if you want to watch the white house briefing with press secretary jay carny, which has been delayed at least a half-hour, can you watch it online at c-span.org. the white house did issue this on its website, whitehouse.gov on the government shutdown, because congress did not fulfill its responsibility to pass a budget, much of the federal government is shut down. roger is joining us from arkansas on the line for republicans. good afternoon. >> yes. i have been watching this continually since before the shut down. and i have noticed one thing, that the appropriations bills are done by different appropriations committees. why can't they just be passed individually, sent on to the senate, and let obama and his cronies decide do they want to keep the government shut down or not? appropriations are sent, that's all they should have to do. vote out each one, start putting the government back up one at a time. >> thanks for the call. we have an unscientific poll, getting your sampling who is responsible for the current fiscal stalemate here in washington, you can join the conversation onli