megan, let's pick up on that with jay caspian kang from the new yorker.whether you think it has become problematic that sections of the us media are casting themselves as the guardians of democracy, and in their eyes, that involves some form of opposition to donald trump. yeah, i would agree . with megan about that. i think that it was a conscious decision in 2015 to 2016. - you saw an outlet like the washington post, j where megan works. so, i don't mean to impugn it, but say, democracy dies in darkness. you had msnbc sort of remake itself as an oppositional- network, and that was very good business for these _ news outlets, right? all these places did very well during - the trump administration. and i think that in the end, what it did was that - it created, i think, a lot i of anger on the right, yes. but i also think it created i amongst a lot of democratic voters, this expectation that the media actuallyl was an instrument for— the democrat party, and you see that quite fervently right now. i mean, anybody who steps even slightly out of- line gets pi

megan, let's pick up on that with jay caspian kang from the new yorker.e problematic that you saw outlets like i the washington post — where megan works, so i don't mean to impugn it — _ but say, "democracy dies in darkness. - you had msnbc sort of remake itself as an oppositional- network, and that was very good business for these . news outlets, right? all these places did very well during the trump . administration. and i think that in the end, what it did was that it - created, i think, a lotj of anger on the right, yes, but i also think it created amongst a lot of democratic voters this . expectation that the media actually was an instrument for the democrat party. i and you see that quite fervently right now. i i mean, anybody who steps even slightly out of- line gets pilloried. and it's notjust some twitter effect, it's reallyjust — - i think that there has i become such a souring against the media in generall on both the left and the right at this point, and that, arm, i think that part i of that was because of - a decision that they would be part

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