i have written two letters to jay clayton, respectful letters, asking what did you learn between your first ask and second ask because the first ask ruined the business and when you lose $140 million of revenue, that's a lot of money. no response. i'll give you a true story about two months ago, i went to a seminar sponsored by a major accounting firm, one of the largest in the country i went because mary jo white was the guest speaker. she was the head of the s.e.c. when the case was brought. i walk over to her, i introduce myself i say look, i had a witness to the conversation i'm too much of a gentleman to take you on publicly, but here's a sealed envelope. in the envelope was a question if you answer the question, i would give $100,000 to your favorite charity her response was, gee, i can't wait what's the question? i said, what did you learn between your first ask, which i rejected, and your second ask, which i would have accepted if it was the first ask and her response was, innocent people, i don't want to put words in her mouth she said innocent people often settle because the