ukraine will not become a member of nato, because from the point of view of jay divens, this is what really confuses russia, but jay divens has another idea, which i also consider completely illogical, which is that russia will have to be armed then ukraine then, yes, so that russia could not attack it, well, all this does not mean that russia has to agree to this either, here we always want to ask, and how we will put russia in front of the fact, how we will put... russia in front of the fact , and i have no answer to that question? if we, if we start from the point of view of this article about which i quoted from the financial times, well, it is true or not, if it is a controversial issue, but still, here is the language, i remind you once again, western ukrainian officials accepted decisions that can become the basis for negotiations material guarantees. security, mr. vitaly, from the point of view of the ukrainian authorities, are the ukrainian authorities really ready for such a position, and how will they introduce this position... into ukrainian society, in any case there wil

, this is something that really confuses russia, but from jay divens there is another idea, which i alsosolutely illogical, that is, it will be necessary to arm russia and then ukraine. so that russia could not attack it, well, all this does not mean that russia has to agree to this either, here we always want to ask, how will we put russia in front of the fact, how will we put russia in front of fact, and i have no answer to this question, if we, if we start from the point of view of this article, about which i quoted financial. times, well, is this true or not, if so, it is a controversial issue, but still, here is the language, i remind you once again, western, ukrainian officials have decided that the basis for negotiations can be essential security guarantees. mr. vitaly, from the point of view of the ukrainian government, is the ukrainian government really ready for such a position, and how will it communicate this position to ukrainian society, here would be in which case there will be a certain split, that is, some people will believe that in fact it is to leave these territories

joining us, at least according to the characteristic signs that he presents, well, you saw that jay divens generally says that it is necessary to promise in russia that ukraine will not... no a member of nato, because from the point of view of jaydivens, this is something that really confuses russia, but jaydivens has another idea, which i also consider completely illogical, which is that it will be necessary to arm russia then, ukraine then, so that russia could not attack it, well, all this does not mean that either russia has to agree to this, right here we always want to ask, how will we put russia in front of the fact, how will we put... russia in front of the fact, and i have no answer to this question. if we, if we start from the point of view of this article, about which i quoted from the financial times, well, is it true or not, if, here is a controversial issue, but still, here is the language, i remind you once again, western, ukrainian officials have decided that essential security guarantees can be the basis for negotiations. mr. vitaly, from the point of view the ukrainian au