one of them is that we did put forth three studies that only take -- would take someone like jay huishhis staff an hour to compare the results of the san francisco system, and put those into those studies. one of them is the cal-pers study that i have before me, and i think he kind of verbally did that. it doesn't take a lot to do that. it won't take tons of staff time, and i hope that you would do that. >> first of all we're very familiar with joe nation who basically is the one who -- >> supervisor elsbernd: yes. >> as an advocate for pension reform, compiles these types of comparison studies. what i was trying to imply and actually stated, every three years the board goes through this exact process. they use actual positions in the current portfolio and they go forward and model those to try and find out obviously weighing return for risk, what would be the best and most prudent way to sort of change the composition of the portfolio. >> supervisor elsbernd: i'm sorry, jay. i'll get back to you because you mentioned oneth

one of them is that we did put forth three studies that only take -- would take someone like jay huishs staff an hour to compare the results of the san francisco system, and put those into those studies. one of them is the cal-pers study that i have before me, and i think he kind of verbally did that. it doesn't take a lot to do that. it won't take tons of staff time, and i hope that you would do that. >> first of all we're very familiar with joe nation who