you know i hate to stop you there we've run out of time but that was jay lederman thank you lawyer lederman divine l o p even though axia a whistleblower john kiriakou is sitting in jail for having described to us interrogation techniques such as waterboarding as torture us back during the bush administration his supporters just aren't having it and they are demanding that he bets he be set free they're taking it up with the white house by way of petition asking president obama to pardon him for his actions now carry out who spoke to us here at r t just a few months ago and now that he's in prison where he's serving his thirty month term started back in february twenty thirty a friend to carry out coups offered to deliver the petition to the white house chief of staff the petition started by a progressive online action community firedoglake and already has more than sixteen thousand signatures since it was published on wednesday morning now the online group hopes to deliver this powerful message through this petition and all the petition may not be as powerful as torture itself which forces

now to talk to me more about this i was joined earlier today by jay lederman lawyer lederman to find lp which is part of this group and i asked him to explain just what's behind all this well what's behind this. ministrations unprecedented prosecution model of whistleblowers people that would seek to shine a light on the truth and expose that to the public are getting prosecuted like never before in history actually it's a it's a crisis and a massive demand for this that that's what you know gave birth to this organization say so the whistleblower defense league that you and others have launched seem to challenge government prosecutions of whistleblowers what do you expect to achieve with this j well what we would hope is that the government backs off and allows people who do know more than try to expose the truth to actually do that. information is important and even more important as we get into the digital age and it's this massive commodity that doesn't belong to the government it belongs to the world and as long as the government keeps trying to clamp down and make it so that pe

you know i hate to stop you there we've run out of time but that was jay lederman thank you lawyer lederman divine l o p well even the a whistleblower john kiriakou is sitting in jail right now for having described u.s. interrogation techniques such as waterboarding calling it torture his supporters aren't having it in fact they are have put a demand forth that he be set free if they're taking it to the white house by way of petition asking president obama to pardon him for his actions now carry out his spoke to us here at r t just a few months ago and he's currently in prison in libretto console pena where he started serving his thirty month term back in february twenty third team no friend of cariocas offer to deliver the petition to the white house chief of staff denis mcdonough and the petition started by the progressive on that action community firedoglake it's already garnered more than six hundred thousand signatures since it was published wednesday morning now the online group hopes to deliver a powerful message to this petition and all of the petition may not be as powerful as tort