>> what was it like, uh, when you used to see jay leno and letterman savage you?t, you know, you had made it on your own, but you wanted to marry -- i guess the term is sugar daddies. >> that wasn't true. >> i mean, here's the question. some would say it wasn't a real marriage. you're telling me tonight, sitting across from me, it was a real marriage? >> yes. can we stop the camera, please? >> okay. let's give her a moment. >> the media thought this was, to some degree, a detective story. like, is she a gold digger or is she not? and they were using those old kind of stereotypes to kind of, you know, rip the lid off this story. >> i could have married him a week after we met or two weeks after we met. i could have married him years before, and i didn't. i didn't. i went out and amade something of myself. >> to actually see her in tears and break down and really feel what she was feeling was heartbreaking. >> it's been five years now since he's passed away. are you able to get on with your live at all? looks to me like you're still -- >> it's hard. i mean, i went t