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>> jay sekulow is the president's private attorney. and you're right in your intro that that statement was oddly phrased. what we're trying figure out and don't know the answer to, is maybe is this coming down to the word subpoena? as in, is sekulow focus on a specific word where maybe they've requested some records in some other way? >> it was not even a double negative. it was like a reverse run around -- >> with a twist. >> half positive, half negative with a twist. absolutely. we're still trying to figure out just what it is he said there. ken, if you're a member of the house intelligence committee or a staff member, in walks donald trump, jr., closes the door, closed off to coverage by types of people like us, what do you want to know from him? >> well, you definitely want to know about this june 2016 meeting with the russian lawyer and russian american lobbyist as well. the russian lawyer has now provided testimony that donald trump was specifically curious about whether he could get information, damaging information about financ

jay sekulow and john dowd who represent donald trump personally are in a somewhat more combative moden a source of some tension. now you have dowd and cobb saying really different things about how this investigation will proceed. excuse me, but the real point is that they're not in control. robert mueller is in control of what happens here. they can say anything they want, but mueller's going to decide how this goes. >> you know, and what may have happened is that dowd may have jumped the gun here. ty cobb has been saying for months we have nothing to fear, the president has nothing to fear, this is fact-based. what dowd did when alan dershowitz said at first you can't prosecute a president for obstruction and perhaps it was not the right thing for him to be saying at this particular moment. >> not least because it's wrong under the law. >> right. think he can say it's not a well-oiled machine. >> phil, the president refused to answer questions today about whether he would pardon michael flynn, his former national security adviser. if he were to do so, what would be the reaction from

jay sekulow calling for a special counsel and we reported on that.eported on his words but then we did you go into the history. and jay sekulow has mayonnaise view of special counsels. by which i mean, the more the better. a little extra mayonnaise is great. this is not the first time that jay sekulow has suddenly said, never mind. there should be a special counsel for some democrat or some other thing. here he was in the past on this issue. >> why do we have a special counsel dealing with the russia hacking? when they had that evidence and did nothing. why don't we have a special counsel reviewing why president trump did nothing after he assured the american people. he gets intelligence briefings but then assures the american people rush did not enter gear the election. >> why president obama did nothing when this happened. >> that special counsel on the special counsel at this point. >> i'll give the answer. the reason is even if that was a huge mistake and did you president obama did more against russia, as many people do, that is not a felony. so

and don't forget, you know, john dowd and jay sekulow are the president's lawyers. ide the -- >> i meant -- >> he's inside the white house. they are looking at this as dowd and sekulow are looking at this as we have one client, the president. we don't represent all of those other people. they're looking at it through this very narrow kind of legal lens. the political story is completely different. because even if mueller were to say, you know, and give a report and say, you know, there is no obstruction or whatever, there may be other things that politically could be damaging. we just don't know. but it's not their job to be political strategists, right? and it's their job to do -- >> amidst all of this, jackie, a lot of the house democrats on the intelligence committee, adam schiff among them, you just heard jim himes, they're worried that republicans may be trying to shut down the entire house intelligence committee investigation and going further to shut down mueller's investigation. schiff was on a tweet storm today really trying to underscore these concerns that

and jay sekulow arguing to the new yorker that it wouldn't be a crime to collude with russia to interfere in the election because technically there is no crime called collusion. those claims from the president's lawyers yesterday flipped on what sounded like a laugh track in legal circles all across the country. but they did mark an important moment in this presidency. the moment when the president's legal team stopped arguing that the president didn't obstruct justice or that he didn't collude with russia, they stoppeding ago maybe the president did those things but those things are okay for a president do. so the weird reaction of the mike flynn news over the weekend, the president can't commit a crime because he's the president news yesterday, well now we've got the next phase of the response also from the president's lawyers, it is also a little weird, it's a little hard to make heads or tails of, but basically what the president's lawyers started arguing today is that they are not just arguing with reporters, they're not just trying to shift the narrative about how people describe wh

>> as i said jay sekulow, a member of the president's legal team. reporter: the financial institutions themselves, if they get a request, should they come ply with that? >> i'm not going to get into hypothetical situations and try to determine and project everything that could happen. we know it hasn't happened up until this point and the reports out were totally false, and again, the media got ahead of their skis on pushing and driving that story that wasn't true, brian. reporter: just to follow up on one roy moore bit. you are saying let the people decide but this administration has endorsed roy moore, why endorse him if you want the people to insight the influence of the decision and no matter who runs as a member of the gop it's okay as long as you are in lock step with the president and vote the way he wants? >> once again, i'm not going to get into every person that could or couldn't run for office. if you would let me answer the question. but i'm not going to address the end of the question every person that runs for office. one, i'm not goin

jay sekulow, one of the president's attorneys telling "the wall street journal," he predicts it shoulde over soon. sane, i know we collectively, the lawyers, are looking forward to an expeditious wrapping up of this matter, but he did not say when. he expected that to happen. now stand in, a columnist for "the hill." jay sekulow and his team have indicated that the russian investigation could be over by the end of the year. that seems awfully optimistic as the days take down into thousand 17. >> absolutely. we have been hearing this from president trump's legal team for a while. they expect the pro to be over soon, and that hasn't happened. i think this is part of a larger move to show cooperation with the probe and legal respect for the presidents team to put all the appearance of, we have clean hands and nothing to hide, and therefore, we hope this gets to its conclusion as soon as possible. >> jon: a lot of observers read the tea leaves. the president legal team is trying to hasten robert mueller's team by suggesting this has gone on too long and it ought to be wrapped up quickly. i

close to the matter tells fox that is just not the case and one of president trump's attorneys, jay sekulowreiterated that in statement that sarah sanders red off during the briefing and i quote here, we have confirmed, speaking of jay sekulow, news reports that the special counsel subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false. no subpoena has been issued or received. we have confirmed this with the bank, and other sources. sanders, when i asked her about it, took issue with those other reports. >> i think this is another example of media going too far too fast. and we don't see it going in that direction. reporter: here at the white house the president spent part of his day speaking with leaders throughout the middle east including jordan's king be a beulah and palestinian president mahmoud abbas. the president is fulfilling a campaign promise to relocate the american embassy in israel to jerusalem. arab leaders are speaking out against that decision. >> he spoke with five leaders. hardly indyktive of everybody across the globe but certainly he will continue to have conv

and the attorney jay sekulow has called for the appointment of a second special counsel saying the department of justice and the fbi cannot ignore the multiple problems created by these obvious conflict of interests. these new revelations require the appointment of a special counsel to investigate. the revelation can be found in a fox news report about a senior doj if she wiofficial who was d after failing to reveal he he connecti connections. and a pattern by trump's legal team seems to undermine the agency behind the special counsel's probe. >>> joining me now, richard painter, a former white house chief's ethics leader under president bush. how is jay sekulo justifying the call for a second special prosecutor? >> reporter: well, i talked to him this morning, katy, and he made clear that he doesn't think the second special counsel should look into the work of robert mueller and his team, but should focus on jay sekulow, and what the belief is regarding corruption that you just mentioned and the demotion of the senior doj official. but feel like there is a broader pattern to be explored. we

jay sekulow making the same argument? >> both things can be true. ken starr could have been out of control, partisan motivations and robert mueller, and ken starr was investigating a, you know, it was investigating something not quite -- put the country in the stakes as russia trying to influence our elections, but i think, you know, mueller has done a good job in going above and beyond what is necessary to be credible, and ken starr was not. >> the other way to look at this, despite the attempts to attack ken starr, by the clinton white house, he wasn't fired. he sent over -- sent over -- bill clinton was impeached. it didn't impede the investigation, therefore doesn't impede mueller? >> sure, he was impeached but the "ststarr report was receives a purely partisan document. everyone inner buy in to the case against clinton from elected democrats and he ultimately survived the scandal. that's essentially the game played here by republicanses. look, the mueller investigation could, left on its own, conclude with a report t

today, white house lawyer jay sekulow denied the reports and while oddly word here is what said, quote, we have confirmed that the news reports that the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false. no subpoena has been issued or bank and other sources. the bank, however, had issued this statement. deutsche bank takes is legal obligation seriously, remains committed to cooperating with authorized investigations into this matter. the bloomberg news correspondent who cowrote their news organization's report on this spoke to our own ary melber earlier this evening. >> we stand by our story. we bent back to our sources. we acknowledged the denial. >> you may recall just five months ago the president told "the new york times" that if it came to investigating his finances unrelated to russia, as he saw it, that would be crossing a red line. he was asked about that very thing today. >> has mueller crossed a red line with deutsche bank? has mueller crossed a red line? mr. president has mueller crossed a red line. >> thank you. >> there is also news tonig

joining us now with reaction the attorney for president trump, jay sekulow, you were involved today.y saw your text messages to nbc. >> yes. >> sean: where you said you are not calling for a special counsel for a special counsel to be appointed for robert mueller at all. >> correct. >> sean: you said it three times in that same text exchange. >> right. so here's what you had. sean, this was a really straightforward situation. when the news broke yesterday about bruce ohr, and the conversations he had with fusion gps and chris steele, which by the way supposedly were done without knowledge of his -- those in authority over here aim though he was very high ranking fourth in line authority at the department of justice, we then find out that not only meeting with fusion gps and christopher steele who wrote the fake dossier, but that, i mean, you cannot make this stuff up. that bruce ohr's wife was working at the same time for fusion gps and was their expert on russia. so, we said when we saw this yesterday with my colleagues we discussed the issue and decided that the best course of acti

jay sekulow told axios, quote, the department of justice and fbi cannot egg north multiple problems thated by these obvious conflicts of interest. these new revelations require the appointment of a special counsel to investigate, he writes. jonathan turley is constitutional law expert and georgetown university law professor and good friend of the program. jonathan, good to see you tonight. thank you for being with us. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: what do you think about that? should dethat? >> i totally agree with the need for a serious investigation. i find the allegation involving the dolls yea and the fusion effort to be deeply troubling. there are false statements that have been made there are serious conflicts of interest. having said that i would not recommend another special counsel. this is the type of thing that congress can and should investigated they have jurisdiction over the justice department. this is a core concern of whether the justice department acted through politically motivated means or purposes. now, that can change depending on new disclosures it, can also change

now trump attorney jay sekulow tells ax yoes "the department of justice and fbi cannot ignore the multiple created by these obvious conflicts of interest, these new revelations require the appointment of a special counsel to investigate just a moment he added "it has nothing to do with bob mueller or mueller's team." paul butler, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. he's saying it has nothing to do with bob mueller's investigation so why are they having a special investigation about an internal matter within the justice department about whether there was a conflict between a guy having something to do with picking this research firm and he's wife working for that research firm and that research firm having worked for hillary? it doesn't necessarily mean they're doing any corrupt, and by the way can't the department of justice figure this out? >> special counsel for what? so i do my homework, i looked up this special counsel statute. it says, if there's a conflict of interest that the department can't prosecute the case objectively, like for example when the attorney general d

i talked with jay sekulow one of the president's outside attorneys this morning. he said these revelations about bruce ohr, the associate deputy attorney general until demoted last week because of contacts he had with people involved in the so-called dossier about president trump, plus the fact that his wife, nelly, worked for fusion gps which had commissioned that dossier and all of the other allegations, revelations swirling around the two, demand this be looked into further. jay sekulow is saying that a special prosecutor should be appointed to look into the department of justice and the f.b.i. to find out exactly what the involvement was with this dossier and christopher steele, who is the ex-mi5 intelligent agent from the u.k. which sparked all this which led to the investigation into president trump by the f.b.i., brought us to where we are now with the special prosecutor, robert mueller. jay sekulow told me in in uncertain terms does any of this have to do with anything regarding the mueller investigation. he says that he and the rest of the president's att

. >> reporter: david, president trump's attorney jay sekulow released the statement. said the news reports that the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false. no subpoena has been issued or received. we have confirmed this with the bank and other sources. tonight, we're learning about the cost of the first four months of the mueller investigation, $6.7 million so far, david. >> cecilia at the white house, thank you. >>> next to alabama senate candidate roy moore and the about-face from the rnc, pulled funding funding. suddenly now the rnc now helping him again. what changed? is the one republican senator who's writing a check to roy moore's opponent saying he's putting country over party. here's tom llamas. >> reporter: for the first time, president trump today speaking out about his decision to endorse roy moore, a man who's accused of molesting teenage girls. >> i think he's going to do very well. we don't want to have a liberal democrat in alabama, believe me. >> reporter: the republican national committee had cut ties wit

what they are telling us tonight is that it's likely to be jay sekulow as well as john dowd, the twoersonal attorneys for the president, this will not include ty cobb. he's not going to comment at all, all these conversations with the special counsel are private, they are tired of all of the leaks. we will not discuss our periodic communications with the special counsel. as you see right there. what is interesting is since the president's legal team is not talking about it, this is likely leaking from the side of the president's critics. why would they want to leak this out there? they want to build this up that maybe we are reaching a critical juncture, may be an obstruction of justice case is being built. people close to the president's side are telling me they are still confident that the key parts of this investigation will wrap up early next year, there will not be an obstruction of justice case and this is a check in meeting, there have been periodic meetings between the president's attorneys and the special counsel, that's normal in any case like this. but i think this is a wh

kennedy: the president's attorney jay sekulow point out, collusion is not a crime. at some point people are going to get sick and tired of this. they realize a lot of time and taxpayer money has been spent here. transparency always benefits the american people. if this is a politicized witch hunt it will come back and bite someone. >> it will depend on what mueller comes up with, if there is anything beyond obstruction of justice which judge napolitano argues to be a problem for the president. and who is control. congress. if the democrats take control of the house this could change the scenario what level of crime would be impeachable and what level would be problematic. kennedy: you better hope republicans don't pass thanks reform. if they don't, it's wide open and anyone could take both house. but it will play in the democrats favor if republicans fail on tax reform and if democrats get in charge of the house, what do you think is going to happen? >> we don't have this crappy tax bill. kennedy: people within his cabinet when a majority of them get together and sa

so by coming out and saying collusion isn't a crime jay sekulow has said those words and getting advicewyers. >> alan dershowitz is not his attorney. >> julie: he is getting it from his personal attorneys that collusion is not a crime. a lot of lawyers have maintained from the get-go. those advising the president. that's true that collusion is not a crime. it all comes down to the obstruction of justice once again. ben. >> that's correct. if the collusion itself is not a crime, the getting -- the interference of the collusion investigation would be a crime. so there are a lot of -- >> there has got to first be, julie, proof of collusion. this is the greatest fiction so far that ben and the democrats who run around the country with their hair on fire hoping for collusion where none yet has been proven. at the end of the day here, the president has an opportunity -- and he said it very clearly -- i want this thing to get wound up for the sake of the country. i want to investigation to go forward and i've stayed out of it. the bottom line is robert mueller will do a good job and he said to

jay sekulow is calling for a he special counsel after revelations about bruce ohr. we learn he was demoted for meeting with the co-founder of fusion gps. yesterday it was also revealed that ohr's wife nelly worked for fusion gps during the election. the white house stopped just short of echoing sekulow's call for another special prosecutor. >> if we are going to investigate things, let's look at something where there is evidence and proof of wrongdoing. this look pretty bad and i think it's something we should look at. david: joining me is ron desantis. he's a member of the freedom caucus. congressman, bruce ohr and his wife. the fact that they both were essentially taking crews from fusion gps. this is more than a conflict of interest. fusion gps was being paid for by the hillary campaign. they were working closely with russians to discredit trump as a candidate. this looks like more of a conspiracy than conflict of interest. does it not? >> this goes right to the heart of this whole trump-russia stuff. it shows potentially that you had the democratic party by send

jay sekulow told fox news, these revelations warn the appointment of a special counsel to look into all of this, also making it clear that he is not questioning in any way, shape, or form the moore investigation whether they investigate. he wants to separate these two things to him say it has nothing to do with it. is it legal counsel takes aim at the special counsel, the president is lashing out against kristen gillibrand after she tweeted that the president should resign over allegations of sexual impropriety. yesterday, for women hood made accusations against the peasantry in the election campaign came out to demand a congressional investigation into all of this. the president tweeting at senator gillibrand, lightweight senator kristen gillibrand, a funky for chuck schumer and somebody who would come to my offer begging for campaign contributions not so long ago and would do anything for them is now in the ring fighting against trump. very disloyal to bill and crooked, it took a nanosecond for senator gillibrand tweeting, you cannot silence me or the millions of women who have gotten

jay sekulow is calling for a second special counsel to investigate the investigators.e says the doj and fbi cannot ignore obvious conflicts of interest. attorney general jeff sessions isn't opposed to the idea. he told fox news today if cases aren't being reviewed as they need to be by the justice department, a recommended counsel should be established. here is the press secretary on that subject. >> i think it's something that causes a lot of concern not just for the president and the administration but i think probably for all americans and something that if we are going to continue to investigate things, let's look at something where there is some real evidence of some real proof of wrongdoing. this looks pretty bad and i think it's something we should look at. >> kimberly: greg, you like that. >> greg: it's fairly obvious, you have to ask yourself, who is dirtier? a political machine who's been at it for years or some new guy with no history of such activity. you are seeing, chasing this russian stuff, it's all blowing back on the clintons. trump might've been a bu

now, trompe l'oeil, gray secular jay sekulow's message about the conference and robert mueller. jeff sessions said he would only recommend one if the standards for a special counsel were met. i would say, it is tough for us to keep track of everything, imagine for somebody who is not actually in business and try to follow this at home. so much is changing on this front, now the possibility of a second special counsel? >> juan: if you're at home and say, it is confusing, keep this in mind. i think we have a very sensitive president, who feels he is under attack, and subject to not only michael flynn, national security advisor pleading guilty, but then request for bank records and the like, and he is responsive to punch back. he is questioning and all of its advocates in the media questioning robert mueller, questioning the fbi, going after the justice department, and officials come up breen questions what is going on as they are engaged in a witch hunt, which is what he wants his supporters to believe. >> marie: juan is correct. this is an effort to undermine the credibility of r

one of the president's personal attorney, jay sekulow, said the conflicts of interest within the fbind justice department over fusion gps "is breathtaking in its scope and she would spark a special counsel." we won last night we broke the story about the texts between the officials. a lot of folks so they weren't too happy about what they saw and they are questioning about whether they can be impartial. what kind of reaction today? >> it was pretty intense of the house judiciary committee, as you can imagine. he appointed a special counsel and the russia probe and try to claim he does not see an appearance problem with people on robert mueller's team donating money to democrats like hillary clinton and then president barack obama. that fired up republicans on the committee who brandished those stunning anti-trump text messages he reported on last night, where a former member of the muller team, fbi official peter strzok, sent to his girlfriend, fbi official lisa page, text where he was calling donald trump an idiot and cheerleading for clinton's campaign. remember, that was while the

the president's legal team jay sekulow is going to go in there. they hope to have a better sense of where things are going. as you know the president and his supporters are getting impatient. they think this is gone on long enough and the iron of that being and this is only seven months since robert mueller have been in charge of this investigation and there is four people who's been brought up on charges. this is moving quickly but not fast enough for republicans. >> also, important to note in the reporting that the president and the vice president, neither of them have been interviewed by robert mueller's team at this point. >> exactly. >> evan perez, thank you for the reporting, i want to bring cnn, adam sanchez at the white house of robert's future, what can you tell us? >> reporter: this concerns dating back to messages coming from the white house. just a few days ago, we had the president saying that what had happened to the fbi was a shame and lamenting the state of the fbi, he was delivering messages that were exchanged between fbi officia

jay sekulow talking to "the wall street journal" saying "i know we are looking forward to an expeditious wrapping up of this matter." professor turley, are we getting close? >> using the word expeditious and special counsel or independent counsel in the same sentence is usually a mistake. these investigations go on for a long time. he has pending cases, a plea bargain, we haven't seen what was delivered. those cases alone could push this for a year or so. with the white house may be talking about is they expect some conclusion on the russian collusion issue. what i think the white house can take a certain degree of competence as they finishing this year with no indictment directly related to the campaign or the current trouble white house. these are all matters that were largely focused on other issues. that has to be good news. many people in washington hope they would have stockings filled with subpoenas by christmas. that hasn't happened. there is some reason for them to be optimistic but i would never put a timeline on it, and i would never bet on what's coming down the pike. >> jona

you have one of the trump lawyers jay sekulow says we do not talk about the special counsel.t does it signal to you? >> reporter: it's not new t. mueller team have been meeting with lawyers in the past and will be meeting in the future t. significance about next week, it comes at a time when there is all these charges from republicans of bias, you had these leaked e-mails from the former fbi act who worked on the hillary clinton e-mail scandal. he looked at the russian collusion question. it comes at a charged time and a time when the white house is increasingly saying enough is enough. this thing has dragged on long enough, wishfully, they're saying this meeting is significant, because it might signal the end at least of the interrogation process and then we can get into some sort of conclusion and wrap this thing up. you are also hearing that from republicans on capitol hill that they might be wrapping up their intel investigations, in both the house and the senate. it's more a time lean i think than a substance issue. >> melanie, what do you think the likelihood this is, t

. >> susan in an interview with "the wall street journal," the president's attorney jay sekulow is quoted the lawyers are looking forward to an expeditious wrapping up of this matter. have you heard anything that would give his legal team this optimism? >> no, it does appear they're pushing this end of year deadline. it does seem the majority of republicans are looking to wrap up their investigation. that's over the objections of the vice-chairman adam schiff, who says, look, we're not done. but as far as the special counsel mueller's probe, there's no indication whatsoever. we've actually seen reports just this evening he's potentially considering issuing a super seeding indictment, so by every indication, this is complex investigation, we're looking at months if not potentially beyond the next year in terms of what the time frame might look like. >> steve, are you comfortable that enough has been done to prevent meddling in the 2018 mid-terms? >> no, not at all. first of all, it's a very difficult thing to figure out how to keep a nation state like russia or china or others who might be

both of the president's lawyers jay sekulow and john dodd writing vote no subpoena has been issued oreceived. here's the white house press secretary yesterday, take a listen. >> from the financial institutions themselves if they get a request, should they provide that? >> look, i'm not going to get into hypothetical situations and try to determine everything that happened. we know that it hasn't happened up until this point. and that the reports out were totally false and the media got ahead of their skis a little bit. >> deutsche bank paid a $10 billion fine for russian schemes converting rubles into dollars for security trades that had no economic purpose. the scheme was carried out between 2011 and 2015. the obama jutsdz department had also been investigating the bank. you should know that the president has deep ties to deutsche bank. it's backed by the largest learned to trump real estate business. it was called, quote, donald trump go-to learned quoting the bank itself has been shunning him for years. as the two see over a $340 million loan. the case was settled out of court in 2

jay sekulow said i know we collectively, the lawyers, looking forward to an expeditious wrapping up of this matter. he's part of the legal team. outside experts, other lawyers involved say, hmm, an expeditious wrapping up of this might be a little bit too optimistic. this may take a little bit longer than the president and his legal team are hoping for. >> and a shameless plug for your reporting. you have a bunch of cnn reporters -- something on cnn.com on just that, that not only are the president's lawyers saying this publicly, that it will wrap up soon, they apparently are telling that to their client, the president of the united states. we can talk more about that another time. thank you very much for that report. >>> for more on the president's latest attacks on the fbi, let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent, manu raju. trump likes to say that this dossier -- we should say the dossier that was put together not by the government but a private source, and the funding we've learned over the past year or so that it was funded by a republican source, by democratic sourc

jay sekulow is another one of the president's outside counsel, who says, look, deutsch bank has not turned over any records. and yet, nicole, it is possible, and i'll leave it to your legal team to dig into this more deeply. but the president's legal team wouldn't be advised by that. so a lot of unanswered questions and of course shadowing over all of that the fact that you do have this dispute with the president's legal team, over whether the president can commit obstructio obstruction, and say they that he can't. >> i heard from three senior republicans closely aligned with this white house, firmly behind the president and his agenda. who all have been in contact with people who are of interest to bob mueller, not necessarily subjects of the investigation, but witnesses in the investigation. who say that it is abundantly clear to them that bob mueller is building an obstruction of jugs case. >> yeah, i think that's right and i think that's why securing the cooperation from former national security advisor michael flynn was so critical to mueller and his investigative team. they hope that

july 12, jay sekulow said the president wasn't involved and echoed that on july 16 in his appearancepress." >> the president was not, did not draft the response. the response came from donald trump jr. and i'm sure in consultation with his lawyer. the president was not involved in the drafting of the statement and did not issue a statement. >> he says the president wasn't involved. july 31st they stay president dictated the statement. the next day, sarah huckabee sanders says president trump weighed in as any father would. we have the latest don jr. testimony. what do you make of this? >> chris, only a lawyer for donald trump could make the distinction between drafting and dictating as a way out of this. you are right. the explanation has shifted. what we learned yesterday, don jr., for some reason or under some rational, invoked attorney-client privilege. it raises a bigger question. why not? why not clarify for the committee, the facts behind this? this is the recuring question throughout this whole investigation. it's been the question with michael flynn. it's been the question wi

the trump legal team, led by john dowd and jay sekulow hope they can see signs the end is near in the had other meetings, but here's why this one is of significance. the white house says everyone who works there and who mueller has asked to interview has now gone in for an interview. one of the last happened earlier last week, when white house counsel don mcginn sat down for his interview. the white house has also finished turning over documents requested by the special counsel. there's been no request to interview the president or vice president, we're told. we have a statement from sekulow and he says, "we do not and will not discuss communications with the special counsel." of course, trump lawyers know that mueller could still come back to ask for more interviews and for more documents, and it's important to note that there's no requirement for mueller to give them any information. they are hoping he's going to show his cards and there's a chance he won't do that. the mueller investigation is actually moving relatively quickly, compared to typical white collar criminal investigati

jay sekulow denied these reports saying no subpoena has been received. here's press secretary sarah huckabee-sanders. >> we know that it hasn't happened up until this point and that the reports out were totally false. and again, the media got ahead of their skis a little bit on pushing and driving that story that wasn't true. >> the bank neither confirmed or denied the allegation. well, the president has loans from the bank worth hundreds of million, and so does his son-in-law jared kushner. as "the washington post" reported in june, quote one month before election day jared kushner's real estate company finalized a $280 million loan. this all comes after the president said in july any investigation into his finances would cross a red line if it's unrelated to russia. >> if mueller was looking at your finances and your family's finances up related to russia, is that a red line? >> i would say yes. >> if he was outside that lane, would that mean he'd have to go? >> no, i think that's a violation. >> wow. i'm joined my stephanie ruhle. and democratic congr

>> it was a day after jay sekulow also made that call while insisting hit nothing to do with bob muellerr bob mueller's team. i'll joined with the spokesman and the ethics lawyer under george w. bush. is there under the requirements, so people understand the law, any basis for a second special counsel? >> well, i would be tempted to appoint a special counsel to investigate why the members of congress are covering for president trump on the russia investigation. this is a serious threat to our national security. what happened in 2016. and this investigation needs to go forward. there's just absolutely no credible argument that robert mueller, or anyone now on his staff, has violated any ethics rules. and that they've done anything other than conduct this investigation professionally. president trump feels threatened by it for obvious reasons. his son-in-law, maybe his son are in trouble. i have no idea why members of congress are fronting for the president here. does he have something over them? what's going on? we have a republican deputy attorney general who has to defend a republican.

wonder what you think, david, about this member of trump's legal team we've become so familiar with, jay sekulow journal," he says something that he said before, but he says the special counsel's probe will end soon and this is shared collectively, this view by the president's lawyers. what's the basis for him saying that? >> i looked in that "wall street journal" interview and i wouldn't find he offered a basis for him saying that. by the way, this is the same legal team who had the intuition it seemed that it was going to wrap up by the end of 2017 and that proved not to be the case. michael flynn it was just thanksgiving that michael flynn flipped and is starting to help the mueller team. it would seem really fast if it was going to just wrap up in these first few weeks of january. i do think there is a concern that you hear from some inside and around the white house that the president's legal team is setting these expectations that it's going to wrap up and that if it doesn't, how the president may respond to that may complicate matters. >> sam, what do you think? >> i think we need to let

the trump outside counsel jay sekulow tells fox news a new separate prosecutor should be appointed toto all of it. tonight, fox news has obtained the anti-trump texts. these are fun. by fbi agent peter strzok that led ultimately to his removal from bob mueller special council team. one of them, written on march 4th, in 2016, is between strzok and his gal pal back then, lisa page. strzok text, "would he be a worse president than ted cruz? "that is how liberals text each other, hilarious. page response, trump, yes, i think so. strzok says, i'm not sure, omg. he's an idiot. joining us now with reaction, our law school professor emeritus alan dershowitz. we just call you dersh, that's our production nickname. >> my students call me that. >> laura: we are just copping this duty ends. the author of the new book, about how it endangers democracy. he draws her from san francisco. the man who investigated president bill clinton, former independent counsel and judge, ken starr. let's start with you, judge ken starr. we'll get into these texts in just a moment, but a quick reaction from both of

"the new yorker" published this concerning his discussions with another one of trump's lawyers, jay sekulow. "in several conversations with me sekulow emphasized that collusion between the trump campaign and russia, even if it did take place, would not be illegal." quote, "for something to be a crime there has to be a statute you claim is being violated, sekulow told me. there is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. there is no crime of collusion." there's a lot going on right now in the news. there's a lot going on right now just in the mueller investigation and in the russia scandal. to the point where the mueller investigation website has crashed. but with everything else that's going on, today will always be the day that the lawyers for the president of the united states abandoned their argument that the president didn't obstruct justice and insteadji9÷%eut to argue that it's okay that the president obstructed justice. it will also always be the day at that time lawyers for the president of the united states abandoned the argument that the president and his campaign didn't c

president trump's lawyer, private lawyer, jay sekulow, told our jeffrey toobin in an article in "the new yorker" magazine, and i'm reading it now. let me put it up on the screen. for something to be a crime, there has to be a statute that you claim is being violated. this is not a statute -- there is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. there is no crime of collusion. congressman, do you agree? >> so, this is the same administration that fast-rewind last january said the entire issue and allegation that russia interfered in our election was a hoax and sthathat it was a witc hunt. there aren't very many people maintaining that at this point. this is the same administration that for the longest period of time, in fact, the president said it as late as last week, no collusion, no collusion, is now saying, oh, but collusion is not a crime. the fact of the matter is, there's so much smoke you can't see the hand in front of your face. >> well, have you seen actual evidence, congressman, of collusion between the trump campaign and the russians? >> see remarks above, wolf. what w

here's one of president trump's personal attorney, jay sekulow, tonight. >> at the end of the day, youave to say, how is this allowed to continue? why are these people not terminated? you know what the answer is, people don't like when you say it, but it is the deep state, the bureaucrats. >> another white house attorney, ty cobb, said that mueller's team is done interviewing white house officials. he also said that he believes the special counsel's investigation is going to be wrapped up soon. we are talking weeks, maybe months. but democrats have come out and said that is either complete fiction or wishful thinking. so, shannon, believe what he will on that one. >> shannon: iss a very big story to be coming out tonight, the same night we have the election. we will continue to pour through these. >> they are still coming in. >> shannon: we have 10,000 to read. it takes a little time. we thank you for pouring through. >> thank you. >> shannon: let's go back to doug t jones' campaign headquarters in birmingham, he is the victor tonight. doug mckelway has been with him on a night theyy w

his lawyer, jay sekulow, says deutsche bank hasn't been subpoenaed.ve spoken to in that industry, deutsche bank would never tell trump's lawyer. >> i think this thing is unfolding in a way that is not going to end well for the trumps. you have the national security advisor the other day, h.r. mcmaster in a "wall street journal" interview talk about the fact that we have to counter russia's destabilization efforts all throughout western democracies. this is the national security advisor in the trump administration saying it. whatever these folks say they're lacking in credibility now. i think the end of this trail doesn't end well for them. >> all right. well, it's not going away any time soon. >>> when we returning, steve bannon goes off at a campaign rally for roy moore, attacking the media, the military complex as well as some high-profile republicans. we'll take you live to alabama next. >>> first, in just a few hours the house will vote on a guns bill that would allow gun owners with concealed carry permits to travel to other states with their con