explosive memo, chief counsel for the american center for law and justice jay sekulow. calling this the biggest abuse of power corruption case in our lifetime. this was all designed to impact a presidential election and an incoming president and to undermine an incoming president. and to undermine an election. i want to get your general throughout first. >> well, you have to look at the time line here, sean, to show how dangerous the precedent that's been established by the fbi. james comey and the fbi attempted to get a fisa warrant in the summer of 2016. they were not successful. they then moved in october by adding to their request the steele dossier. then they get a fisa warrant so that fisa warrant is issued. in january, before the president was sworn in james comey meets and says dangerous and unsolicited dossier. the president was not uninvestigation and that not to worry about that. yet, seven weeks before then, he obtained a fisa warrant based on that dossier. then it was renewed a day before the inauguration and then renewed subsequently again. so, when you lo

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new report in the "new york times" this hour saying the president's lawyers, including john dow, jay sekulow and other advisers are saying don't do it, don't talk to bob mueller. you have been reporting with gloria borger on a lot of this over the past week. what can you tell us tonight? >> that's right, erin, in fact, the president's lawyers have been in the president's ears telling him for a long time he should not testify. the concern, it would be a perjury trap. it would be some fishing expedition and would basically set up the president to where he could be caught in a lie. as you know, the president has been outspoken about his desire to want to sit down with robert mueller. he even said he would love to do under oath, but under that caveat that he would only do it at the advice of his lawyers. they're making the argument to robert mueller's team that they have not met the threshold of interviewing the president. they are making the argument that the president isn't just like anyone else and that they haven't shown enough evidence to prove why they need to sit down to interview the pre

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>> i grade jay sekulow and ty cobb who i don't know, i know jay for many years, very high respect. and i believe that mr. cobb's approach of being respectful toward mr. mueller has been the right approach. the problem they all face is the client not telling the truth. and they don't know what he knows. and so the whole issue whether he should testify is about oh, my goodness, suppose he says something and he actually tells the truth? if he's hiding something, he's in great danger, so the answer is on a crisis management grade, i would give it a very poor grade. intellectual skills, jay and ty cobb and others, mr. mcgahn are all great lawyers. >> the only name i didn't hear you name was john dowd, we'll save that for another day. >> i don't know mr. dowd. >> you're arguing in your book, what about it is relative to today? in other words some people want to relive the old campaign, some people don't. but what about your argument or your relevant or legitimate for the trump presidency on the road ahead? >> i have something that's dramatic that shows on the morning of december 28, hill

john dowd and his deputy, jay sekulow, have advised the president not to grant a face-to-face interview with robert mueller's team, according to "the new york times." trump's legal team is concerned that the president who admitted in a 2007 libel case deposition that he had lied in the past could contradict himself and be charged with lying to investigators. >> i would refer you to a statement from ty cobb on that. the professional and active discussions between the office of special counsel and the president's personal lawyers regarding how and under what terms information will be exchanged are understandably private. >> reporter: just two weeks ago, the president himself said he would gladly sit down with the special counsel. >> you know, again, it's -- i have to say, subject to my lawyers and all of that, but i would love to do it. >> reporter: cnn has learned that the president's legal team is prepared to argue that the special counsel hasn't met the high legal threshold to force the president to talk. sources tell cnn the president's attorneys are prepared to argue that other peopl

. >> it is so interesting, though, i remember jay sekulow was on cnn. i think i interviewed him about this or someone else did. he said, look, don jr. and his attorneys were the ones who drafted this statement. that was the word from the white house, that the president had nothing to do with this. >> that was not true. >> right. that was not true. >> correct. >> and, i mean, everyone seemed to go out and deny the story and now it just seems clearly they were not telling the truth. but to the point you made earlier, that may not be lying to the media and the american public, that's not necessarily a crime. >> it's not ideal and it's not what you want, but given that there is a legal aspect here, you just want to be careful not to suggest where it could independent up. >> all right. maggie haberman, i appreciate it. more from panel members on this breaking story tonight. shortly, even more breaking news on the nunes memo and it's a shocker. more ahead. you know what they say about the early bird... he gets the best deal on the perfect hotel by using tripa

jay sekulow and john dowd say do not talk to him.ould not talk to him. >> let me tell you how it will work. the request to talk to him is a request. so if he talks to mueller, it will be a massive interview. it won't just be mueller it will be prosecutors and fbi agents. it won't be under oath. it won't be public. it will be a q and a. president can answer however long he wants to. we all know what he is like. he doesn't always use an economy of word. sometimes it's informational. mueller wants to know what he is thinking. sometimes it's deadly. they may want to trap him. if he doesn't do that they can have the grand jury subpoena him. mueller has two grand juries. one downtown washington, d.c., one in alexandria. ainsley: president's attorneys don't think that will happen. do you. >> i do. my advice to the president which is pretty much standard advice is never ever ever talk to a guy that owns a grand jury. he is not your friend. brian: they are going to go fight the subpoena and go up to the supreme court how will they rule. >> i