jay sekulow is with us. want to redo something very quick and i don't want to take your time, we have very little time. the president and his appointee took our time. but i want to redo this. this was in 2006 by judge kavanaugh. he said, it was a conference at george mason law school. he said it, justice scalia, what did he stand for as a judge? it's not complicated but profound and worth repeating. the judge's job is to interpret the law, not to make law or make policy. read the words of the statute as britton. read the text of the constitution as written mindfully of history and tradition. don't make up new constitutional rights that are not in the text of the constitution. don't shy away from enforcing constitutional rights that are in the text of the constitution. changing the constitution is for an amendment process and changing, by the way, policy within constitutional balance is for the legislative branch. remember, the structure of the constitution, separation of powers and federalism are not mere ma

. >> and another trump attorney jay sekulow said today. >> that's not just technically correct. that's actually the law, but there's no violation of law, statute, rule, or regulation that we have seen after reviewing this case for a year. and i think bob mueller will come to the same conclusion. >> democrats aren't buying it. >> i can't keep up with rudy giuliani's theories of defense. and they change almost by the hour. you know, collusion at one point never happened. the next point, if it happened, it's not serious. >> way down by the russia probe, the president is turned to issues popular with his base, threatening to shut down the government to make congress pay for a border wall, insisting that's a very small price to pay and tweeting, i don't care what the political ramifications are. even fellow republicans are leery of a shutdown with the midterm elections fast approaching. >> i kind of see it as posturing, to be honest with you. an irresponsible thing to do, i think. >> mr. trump's border policy is coming under increasing scrutiny with them admitting to congress that se

i never get over jay sekulow saying the president was involved in drafting the report.may not have been told the truth. but this is the problem we hear over and over again. well, this is the president saying author is this client saying. then quit or don't parrot it if you don't believe it. we will see what gets said to federal investigators. it is a crime to lie to them. michael cohen has not yet been contacted by them as far as we know. how that plays out remains to be seen. >> jeff, donald trump, the president has never under oath about this meeting. so there is no law he would have broken. if he is lying, he is just lying to the american public and reporters. >> correct. although donald trump jr. may have a problem because he under oath to congressional committee said he did not discuss this with his father in advance. so if michael cohen is telling the truth, donald trump jr. may have a problem. but it's also important to remember why this issue is important. this isn't just some random meeting. this is a meeting between the representatives of the russian governmen

shannon bream, jay sekulow, jay garrett and later we will have an opening monologue that we will tellou all about your president selections. joining us from the white house as our own john roberts. >> for the past hour or a little more, shannon bream and i have been leaning toward the kavanaugh. we expect to see the president, as well as judge and, soon to be, if the president gets his way, justice brett kavanaugh walking up. he is a veteran of the d.c. court of appeals. so many different justices of current and past from the d.c. circuit court of appeals. there are a lot of people who thought that this was maybe too much of an establishment toys, that maybe he should have gone with tony amy barrett, but nexe around if another justice steps down while the president is still sitting in the oval office, amy coney barrett would likely be his next choice. >> we are only ten seconds away, the president of the united states banking because big announcement. the ap reporting and fact that it is judge kavanaugh which have been removed most of last week. again, i would confirm -- if there is t

shannon bream, jay sekulow, jay garrett and later we will have an opening monologue that we will tell all about your president selections. joining us from the white house as our own john roberts. >> for the past hour or a little more, shannon bream and i have been leaning toward

atr last week at this time jay sekulow and i were being akiewltsed of leak -- were being accused of likingt. they made it clear it didn't come from us. there is only one place it could come from, donor lanny davis. why did they put it out? it's harmful to cohen. i think they put it out because they wanted the doctored version to obscure whatever else will be on that tape. i was hoping he possibly he raced it and we could recover it. by the was never recorded in the first place. as you know, judge, we can draw an inference it was favorable to us because of the way in which he was deceiving. judge jeanine: i want to thank you for calling in. >> great book, judge. i have gone through half of it now. you gave me a copy. i bought my own and gave three or four of them out. judge jeanine: i know you will have more to say tomorrow morning on "fox news sunday." now to my opening statement. you know, americans elected the outsider businessman president. why? to borrow a phrase from the man himself. what do we have to lose? the economy was in the tank, our kids western living in the basement because

shannon bream, jay sekulow, jay garrett and later we will have an opening monologue that we will tellg us from the white house as our own john roberts. >> for the past hour or a little more, shannon bream and i have been leaning toward

steve: jay sekulow thank you very much.really is. steve: who has ever heard of christianization. the charge. ainsley: not in this country. pete: countries where you don't have religious liberty. steve: 21 minutes exactly before the top of the hour. jillian has some brand new video. jillian: yes, i do. good tuesday morning and to you at home as well. start with this surveillance video. just released in the killing of george h.w. bush's former doctor. police show it shows the suspect moments after cardiologist mark house it's neck was shot and killed riding bike in houston two weeks ago. police believe he was targeted but won't say why they think that police have released this sketch of the suspect, a $5,000 reward is being offered for anyone who has any information. a democrat running for congress wants to solve the immigration crisis by giving amnesty to illegals. kentucky's hank lenderman saying i want to start a conversation about restricturing ice and granting amnesty to the people already here. he disungt elaborate on h

that was jay sekulow a year ago discussing when the president learned about the infamous 2016 trump towerians. michael cohen has indicated that donald trump did tell his father about the meeting at the time. contradicting what the team has been telling the american public. let's bring in. no collusion, no collusion, but yes, collusion. >> well, when you look at this, and you see this kind of falling out with michael cohen between president trump and this is the damage that could happen with president trump. right now, you are talking about michael cohen saying he heard this. or that he has knowledge of this and that other people do. and that is going to raise more questions and even if there could be legal implications obviously, but even beyond that, this idea that did the president tell these bold lies that he didn't know about this and then come out with evidence that he did know. i think that would be a big deal even for this president. >> i got some good stuff on hillary coming up. and all of these phone calls back and forth on these unidentified phone calls with his son and the comm

i think giuliani mentioned he had discussed this potential story leaking with jay sekulow who was a tvpr person for the president last year, anyway. this is -- i want to go back to the timeline for a continue that rick talked about because i think that's really, really important to judge whether or not this meeting is likely to have occurred. i think that this -- knowing a pre-planning meeting happened, knowing the trump campaign was very eager to get this dirt on hillary clinton has to be looked at from the perspective of, okay, well the campaign actually already knew or at least one member of the campaign already knew rurchs had dirt on clinton in the form of thousands of emails. remember george papadopoulos had been told by russia linked foreign national that the russians did have this dirt on clinton. so if you use common sense and if you say it's very likely that papadopoulos told the campaign about these emails beforehand and you look at their eagerness and willingness to accept this meeting with the russians on promise to obtain dirt on hillary clinton and don jr. didn't seem su

s denials on fox news, the president's lawyer, jay sekulow, told cnn this -- >> the president was not aware of the meeting, did not attend the meeting, and was only made aware of the e-mails very recently by counsel. i wasn't involved in the statement drafting at all, nors what the president. >> reporter: a week later, a strong denial from the president himself, during this taped interview with "the new york times." >> did you know at the time? >> no, i didn't. >> but you didn't -- >> it must have been a very unimportant meeting because i never even heard about it. >> no one told you a word, nothing? >> it's a very unimportant -- sounded like a very unimportant -- >> reporter: if that's true and the president didn't know anything about it as he says, how does he explain what happened next? "the washington post" reported last july that the president himself decided to say the meeting was about adoption. and dictated the misleading statement don jr. gave "the new york times." the paper said the president dictated statement aboard air force one the day the story first broke on his way ba

take trump lawyer and stock photo of businessman enjoying microphone, jay sekulow. ( laughter ) he wrote jr.'s statement, but that's not what he said on "meet the press." >> the president was not, did not draft the response. the response came from donald trump, jr. the president was not involved in the drafting of the statement and did not issue the statement. it came from donald trump, jr. >> stephen: wow, he is good. ( laughter ) but there is a very subtle tell when a president's lawyer is lying. see if you can spot it. right... here! where he appears on tv. ( laughter ) now it's possible that sekulow just got bum information from trump. so either he was lying to us, or the president was lying to him. though, to be fair, it was probably both. and sekulow's not alone. sarah huck-a-sanders also denied it last year. >> he certainly didn't dictate, but, you know, he-- like i said, he weighed in and offered suggestions like any father would do. >> stephen: yes, advice on hiding your crimes from the feds is what any father would do. ( laughter ) i'm sorry. that's what any "godfather" would d

the next day jay sekulow said that michael flynn calling off the join defense agreement was not entirely unexpected. he said no one should draw the conclusion that this means anything about general flynn cooperating against the president. general flynn was in fact cooperating against the president and it turns out that dropping joint defense agreement was a really good sign that was about to happen. within a few days, the following tuesday, abc news was first to repo report, about eight days after thanksgiving, mike flynn stood up in court in washington, d.c. and did he plead guilty and he filed his cooperation agreement. incidentally, you should know we'll see mike flynn in court very soon. next week. that was ordered today in a brief ruling from the judge in nine's case. it sets up a joint status hearing for next tuesday, 10:00 a.m. the judge says mr. flynn is directed to attend. so that hearing next tuesday in d.c., we will see mike flynn in court. it is likely to be the start of a long process that will result in mike flynn getting his senate intelligence. that will depend in large p

supreme court, i won my own case, and have one of the bus supreme court lawyers, youe knw him, jay sekulowases in the supreme court. >> sean: he's won 90% of them. >> that is to say we got the better part of thehe argument. we have presidential privilege, can't be subpoenaed, you have the fact that even if he can be subpoenaed, you have to show particularized need and of john dowd's memo of four months ago show, they have no particularized need. they have everything. let's take an example. mr. president, why did you fire comey? a is already expended over and over again. you either believe it or not, buton don't think we are sucker. you believe a liar like comey. or one of the other lawyers -- they are very good friends. >> sean: robert mueller waser denied the day before he got a special counsel job. >> comey is more discredited than anyone in this investigation. he cannot be believed. so if you are telling me you will believe comey's word against the president, than i know you are trying to trap him into perjury. >> sean: do you think -- what happens -- for example, what happens if muelle

he donated his time on a religious liberty case with myself and jay sekulow at the supreme court.that. it's because he cares about the first amendment, the constitution, religious freedom. a judge with the love for the constitution, i don't think we can get much better than that. >> shannon: we will see. no matter which side you're on, everyone should agree you don't want to judge legislating. you want them to stick to principles. kavanaugh begins a vetting process and it's going to be a tough one i predict. elizabeth and kelly, thank you. when we return, who is judge brett kavanaugh? we are going to tell you his journey. his story is next. there are not many people -- there are many people not happy with president trump's pick. some of them are still out there protesting. we are going to take a look at who they are and why they oppose this particular choice. en when , i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps peop

that's the president's lawyer, jay sekulow. he would return to that, he would pick up that bone in his mouth and whip it around. following the guilty plea a month later, he said for something to be a crime, there has to be a statute that you say is being violated. there's not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. there's no crime of collusion. the president jumped in on this and said the argument that he heard on tv from alan dershowitz. the president brought it up saying i watched dershowitz. he said collusion is not a criminal but even if it was a crime there is no collusion. that's the combining of the denial with the collusion is not a crime narrative. it went away for a few months. the president was focusing on just the straight up no collusion point. you see it in all the tweets. now it is roaring back because of the thursday night bombshell that the president's own former lawyer and fixer cohen is claiming despite all the denials, the president did know about the russia/trump tower meeting in advance. when that re

he said he and jay sekulow spent a great deal of sunday trying to run the story down.said he believes they managed to shut it down and kill the story. he speculated journalists found other reasons not to run the item. >> for her part, haberman told "the daily beast" they haven't run the story and have lost the thread of what guilliani was talking about. yesterday guilliani backed off his flatout denials that senior trump aides discussed the offer in an earlier meeting. >> there was another meeting that has been leaked but hasn't been public yet. >> okay. >> that was a meeting, an alleged meeting three days before according to cohen or according to the leak. he says there was a meeting with donald jr., with jared kushner, with paul manafort, with gates, possibly two others, in which they out of the presence of the president discussed the meeting with the russians. we checked with their lawyers, the ones we could check with, four of the six. that meeting never, ever took place. it didn't happen. >> there's no second meeting here? >> it is highly unlikely. i always have t

the day after thanksgiving, the president's lawyer, jay sekulow told cnn that mike flynn calling off that joint defense agreement was, quote, not entirely unexpected. he said, quote, no one should draw the conclusion that this means anything about general flynn cooperating against the president. general flynn was in fact cooperating against the president and it turns out that dropping joint defense agreement was in fact a really good sign that that was about to happen. within a few days, the following tuesday, abc news was first to report that flynn's lawyers were talking to lawyers in the special counsel's office. and by the end of that week, eight days after thanksgiving, mike flynn in fact stood up in court in washington, d.c. and he did plead guilty, and he filed his cooperation agreement. incidentally, you should know we'll see mike flynn in court again very soon, next week. that was ordered today in a brief ruling from the judge in flynn's case. the order literally, it's only as long as you can see on the screen here. but the order sets up a joint status report hearing in flynn

last week, we were treated to how we leaked it, jay sekulow and i laughed at it. this was leaked on us with a very, very description of what was on the tape probably by the same people lying on cnn. we had to correct the record. we have no problem making this limited release because it is corroborative of the president's statement. >> laura: so are you still maintaining tonight that the recording that was released this evening is 100% exculpatory towards the president and his previous statements about this? >> i think your two guests just said that. no indication of any crime being committed on this tape and that's absolutely right. >> laura: you know what the left is going to say? you know what they do. they've been doing it for months. that the president gave the impression that he didn't know about any of these transactions, that this might've been happening but he didn't know about them. the comment on air force one. sol referenced it. he said i didn't know. sounds like he knew something was being set up to perhaps buy the rights to this karen mcdougal story.

the second meeting was brought to my attention through jay sekulow. both of us dealt with it with two different reporters. essentially the same information about this meeting that took place three days earlier with a whole group of people, every one of those people says it didn't happen. >> so, jake, he says there's a real meeting on cnn and then a couple of hours later, four hours later, he says that meeting never took place. is rudy giuliani -- what's he doing? is he actually acting as the president's lawyer here or what is going on? did somebody get to him and say, oh, wait, no, no, no, you misspoke or we're not telling anyone about that yet? >> the person controlling the overall communication strategy is obviously the president. there's no sort of infrastructure that would dictate anything else. so again, i go back to my original point, it's not clear what his strategy is here. it's not clear what he's trying to do. it's difficult to discern what his motives are. >> if people are confused, is giuliani winning? >> yes. >> yes. >> i do think so. >>

the morning after don junior's denials on fox news, the president's lawyer, jay sekulow, told cnn this. >> the president was not aware of the meeting, did not attending the meeting, and was only made aware of the e-mails very recently by counsel. i wasn't involved in the statement drafting at all, nor was the president. >> reporter: a week later, a strong denial from the president himself during this taped interview with "the new york times." >> did you know at the time they had the meeting? >> no, i didn't know anything about the meeting. but, you know, it must have been a very unimportant meeting because i never even heard about it. >> no one told you a word, nothing? >> nobody told me. i didn't know anything. it's a very unimportant -- it sounded like a very unimportant meeting. >> reporter: if that's true, and the president didn't know anything about it as he says, how does he explain what happened next? "the washington post" reported last july that the president himself decided to say the meeting was about adoption and dictated the misleading statement don junior gave "the new yor

look, your own legal partner here in the president's team, jay sekulow, misled me.ou said he didn't intentionally do that. i take your word. >> he didn't. >> i take your word at that. somebody misled him then. your client may have misled him. >> they already have all these facts. they can do with them what they want. they don't need -- i can tell them that the president's testimony will be exactly the same as he said about this. >> which part, what he said in the public record? we don't know what he said privately. >> he has had an opportunity to think about it, to refresh his recollection. he's given a statement about it. it is clear that there was no discussion with him about this. and, nothing happened from it. >> what's the president afraid of? he's not afraid to sit down with kim jong-un or vladimir putin. why is he afraid to sit down with robert mueller? >> the president is anxious to testify because he knows he's done nothing wrong. it's us, his lawyers, who have real hesitation about it. look how bias the people who started this investigation were. >> you th

jay sekulow, all of them. so if that's a lie, they lied in a lot of circumstances, including to congress. and, matt, there's a key point here, right, which is about the credibility. this is a very strange thing that we're watching unfold that i can't quite make sense of, because if you were trying to get a cooperating deal with robert silent. we're watching this whole thing play out in public. what do you make of that? >> it makes no sense strategically. if you want to get a deal with mueller or the southern district of new york, the best card you have is your information and you want to offer it quietly. there's no need to broadcast it publicly and in fact it hurts you. the explanation that maybe the trump team leaked this. i don't know how the trump team would know that he was ready to testify to this unless -- i mean the only thing i can think of and it's somewhat suspect circumstance is if cohen had gone to trump or the people around him and said, look, i'm ready to testify to this to bob mueller and his t

the second meeting was brought to my attention from jay sekulow, both of us out with it with two differenteporters, essentially the same information about at this meeting that took place three days early with a whole group of people, everyone of those people said it didn't happen and why did i mention it? because first of all, i thought it was going to come out, second, my experiences that when you have something like this floating around, it comes out. i don't want to come out and be unreported when it originally comes out. if it's part of what we are trying to do, the jury for this case of the american public. the congress, yes, the congress is a creature public opinion and how it's being shifted. 22% net for the president. meaning disapproval of his investigation has gone up, some polls have it over 50%, used to be down to 37 or 38, and in the president's division has shifted by about an equal number including his approval rating. so it seems to me there be more understanding why you might not just run in their and testify. also, all of you put on so many lawyer and say we would be out

was thought that an interview would have occurred by now when i was speaking to rudy giuliani and jay sekulow about this in the spring, giuliani told me that he thought that they would maybe get it done after the president returned from north korea. that didn't happen and now it looks as though this is increasingly unlikely to happen, the president about to head to europe tomorrow for a week and then it's full steam ahead on the confirmation of whomever he picks for the supreme court. so i really think that this thing is looking less and less likely. >> harris: i don't know if you caught it last hour, we had andrew mccarthy on the couch with us, a landmark decision by him or cases that he has adjudicated and so he put forth his opinion that the president now is looking at shifting political winds and that this was always about impeachment more than looking for actual crimes. the president wasn't going to be indicted in any way. that may be playing a role in all of this. i'll give you the last word. >> definitely rudy giuliani told me that they thought the political winds were shifting in thei

he said no, the reason i brought it up is because reporters came to me, meaning giuliani and to jay sekulowher member of the trump legal team, saying that this is being floated to them, to the reporters that there was an additional meeting where they were going through the russia situation, that cohen was a part of it. giuliani said that he and sekulow found out in doing their own investigating internally is oh, that meeting never happened. so he said, if you're still with me, that the reason he brought it up to alisyn he has talked about a meeting and said the meeting didn't happen. to me, are you still with me, anderson? >> yeah, i went to a special place in my head for a while. but i'm back. >> not back to the goalpost i hope. but to me he said there is a meeting that never happened. but there is no question that this is his way of, he says, trying to get out ahead of stories, but it's also very much to throw a whole bunch of smoke at the screen and make it hard to see through it. >> giuliani seemed very careful to say that the president wasn't at that meeting at trump tower. he didn't s

those denials w he should note, not just repeated by president trump but by his attorney, jay sekulow, trump jr., his son, trump jr.'s attorney who we reached out to tonight, as well as the white house press secretary, sarah sanders. those people denying that trump had contemporaneous knowledge of that meeting. we did a count, chris, i should say, on more than 15 occasions, that denial coming. >> all right. so we have a whole litany of them about what it is, but, you know, that's the record to this point. so if cohen goes through with this, the main concern is going to be credibility, right? >> exactly. >> because the sourcing is -- correct me if i'm wrong -- i i don't have a document. i don't have anything that shows it's more than my word. how good is his word? >> we don't know, and that is what mueller and the other prosecutors in the southern district of new york, assuming they will get a chance to talk to mr. cohen, will have to determine. i think we've got to look at this as part of a larger picture. mr. cohen is very proximate to important things around donald trump. he is clai

. >> sandra: trump attorney jay sekulow who represents a family who is under arrest in turkey.arge sanctions against the nato ally. let's bring in north carolina senator. >> we're glad he has been released to house arrest. that was a good first step. i will tell you the president of the united states has been incredibly engaged directly securing his release. the president is not resting until our client, andrew brunson, pastor for 23 years in turkey is returned to the united states. >> sandra: senator tillis joins us now. where does it go next? >> first, i appreciate the president's commitment. he and i have spoken about this. secretary pompeo, the administration has real owe done great work to get us to a point where he is released on house arrest but we need to continue the pressure until he is back in the united states and reunited with his family. >> sandra: president erdogan making it clear. they can't make turkey back down with sanctions. we won't step back. is the threat of sanctions going to work and bring this pastor home? >> well, i think that we have to apply -- it's

we'll see if jay sekulow or rudy giuliani say something about it today. the first time talking with abc's george stephanopolous. they spoke for about 45 minutes. cohen not particularly long on any real detail about his thinking. perhaps most telling is what he didn't say during that interview. in the past when asked cohen has said he would take a bullet for president trump. contrast to that he said. my wife, my daughter and my son have my first loyalty and always will. i put family and country first. to be crystal clear my wife, daughter and son and this country have my first loyalty. a lot of speculation whether cohen may start cooperating with the mueller investigation. flipping on the president if you will. if he does he could come into the cross hairs of the president's legal team. cohen said he won't roll over and take it. i won't be a punching bag as part of anyone's defense stage grew. i am not a villain in any story. he would not say whether the president knew about that $130,000 payment to stormy daniels to keep her quiet saying i want to answer.