the national association of manufacturers jay timmons. what are you expecting to hear from that virtual meeting. what do you want to hear from that meeting today >> i think what we want to hear is that we are in a new phase of this crisis. we are in the recovery phase first and the renewal phase which is coming up, which means we are going to see this economy coming back. what does that mean for manufactures in particular it means we have to have skilled workers. even with all of this horrible unemployment producing the way we will be soon, we'll need skilled workers to get the job done that has been the focus for ivanka trump it has been the focus to see the right skills to have our economy be the most productive ever. >> i understand how difficult things are out there in america right now with random shut downs and job losses my wife's company, they are trying to get someone done which requires switching manufacturers. we are in the middle of it around the dinner table. do you see this driving what was happening during the trade war wit

. >>> i want to go to jay timmons. he's a little worried. l association of manufacturers president and ceo and last time we were talking, you were worried about factories that were still experiencing furloughs, those that even when they reopen are going to be reopening at limited capacity. i know that's the case in the 13 states opening or reopening or entering new phases today, michigan among them. what do you make of that, some progress but it's slow? >> well, there is some progress, neil. there's no question about that. we shed about 1.3 million jobs in april in the manufacturing sector. having said that, that's about 2010 levels for manufacturing. that's not depression era levels. so we are confident that manufacturing will again lead the way to an economic recovery. remember, a lot of manufacturing facilities, because they are making essential products like ppe and food supply, cleaning supplies, they have been in business since the start of this. they have been doing things smartly for the most part. they have been trying to make sure t

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