14,000 manufacturers across the nation, national association of manufacturers president and ceo jay timmons. welcome, jay, great to have you. as we just listened to the president, how do you see the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill in is it too much, too lit? and how does manufacturing stand to benefit? >> well, liz, i think that the most important thing that comes out of this bill is a focus on epping the pandemic. there's a lot of things in the bill that both political parties support or don't support, but for manufacturers we're really happy to see the focus on the vaccine. production and distribution. and we are part of the army to make sure that we get as many of those vaccines in arms as possible as soon as possible so we can end this pandemic. obviously, there were so many things in that bill that were designed to impact those who have been through some just unbelievable times. you mentioned some of those, you heard what the president said. those dollars, those direct dollars can mean a tremendous amount to somebody who's either lost their job or who may be standing in line for their next

jay timmons, jonathan jennings thank you for being here, and donnie i appreciate your being on today and appreciate working with you and your team and all of your locals including some good successes with cooper tire and [inaudible] saved a bunch of jobs and some recent legislation on america because you are right that is an opportunity and the level of playing field and the new bill we are working on. this is a really important issue and i want to back up for a second and talk about how to ensure we can be competitive. there's been good discussion about the tax law, but i think that there is a new emerging consensus we need to think about competitiveness in terms of what is called the industrial comment where you've got manufacturers, suppliers, inventors and skilled workers kind of altogether and although as a republican i'm always hesitant to talk about government may be too involved in the market, which is ultimately the very successful making us a strong economy a lot of people envy and then we've got to realize those kind of comments really together doesn't matter. ohio and mic