jay timmons is president and ceo of the national association of manufacturers.ts in this moment, what needs to happen to avoid potential disaster for the american economy, sir. >> well, it is going to be a potential disaster, there is still time to get this resolved but only a few days left. we are grateful the president appointed the presidential emergency board and those members have been working with both business and labor to get an agreement and they have, you know, they have a construct that's available that really frankly needs to be adopted. but if this goes south and we see a strike, it could be devastating for manufacturers, it could be devastating for consumers, and we just need to see this thing get done. >> john: jay, when we think of trains hauling freight, we think of coal, grain as you pointed out, also think of oil, a lot of it moving from canada down into the you state, the keystone xl pipeline did not get constructed and also a lot of consumer goods after coming into the ports and last year saw all the ships sitting out there on the ports tryi