thanks, jayne weintraub. thanks, deepak.to you, alex. >> thank you. >> larry: keep in to

kathy had already been in touch with jayne weintraub. and -- >> larry: who will be on with us later. >> right. >> larry: the lawyer. why did you -- you covered this case. you wrote a book about this case. why get so involved as to take one of the boys involved into your home? >> well, it certainly wasn't my intention. it was just part of a journey. when i met alex, i just -- it just -- it sort of awakened something, maybe the mother in me. and what i saw was a child who had been abandoned all of his life. you know, he had been passed from relative to stranger, through the foster care system, ended up in an orphanage, and now he was ultimately even more alone because he was in prison 15 hours from any relative and it just sort of broke my heart. >> larry: where's derek? >> derek was in a different facility, and i was not allowed to contact him. it was a high-security facility. so now he is out, and he is in jacksonville. he's enrolled in college and doing very well. >> larry: are the two of you close? >> well, we're brothers. we have our

jayne, how did rosie get involved? how did she involve you?ell, rosie o'donnell was watching the case in florida. i guess from wherever she was. she asked somebody that she saw -- she was going on the "today" show and she asked somebody in florida if they knew a female lawyer that was really tough and could get things done. she called me up. i wasn't even working at the time. my mom had just passed away. i told rosie, i'm not working right now, i just can't really do this. she said, you know what your mother would want you to go back to work. go back to work. it had been six weeks. she called me again. i went up to pensacola. and i saw this little boy. the pictures that you've been showing. and i saw him in a jail cell, throwing a spalding ball at the wall in the jail cell. and how could you not just want to help this kid? he was a baby. he was a little boy. yes, he did something awful. but we don't just throw children away. and i think -- >> larry: at that time, jayne, he was convicted and he was facing what? >> he was facing 22 to life and h