being at the jc rc has allowed me to continue that passion. i move back and forth between the universal and particular aesthetic issues throughout the community. >> and you are a bit of a harbinger on the life of the clarity, and you did not go into the pulpit, and you have spent your service in the community running disorganization and defining the action in that way. at the time, was that part of your thinking, or was it that you did not want to be put into a certain box, so to speak, by being in one place at one time? >> it is a great question, but the truth of the matter is that i have an undying admiration for my colleagues that are superb and the pastoral role. i saw myself more called to a community-based role, i am consensus minded, a natural fit for the organization like the jc or see -- jc rc. i believe in pulling the sides together. in addition, i grew up in that period of the 60s where there was and increasing self- consciousness of being motivated by the jewish values in the advocacy work, but not necessarily knowing enough about