it's like saying love saying like saying jcb. i love saying jcb . there's some it . jcb.> you know , investigation going >> you know, investigation going on for three years and it's understood to be it says here, it's understood to be serious, which i wouldn't understand why it would be going for three it would be going on for three years it was a bit of a joke. years if it was a bit of a joke. >> right. exactly. and stating the yeah. the obvious. rather yeah, yeah. kind hmrc the obvious. rather yeah, yeah. kin(grounds hmrc the obvious. rather yeah, yeah. kin(grounds to hmrc the obvious. rather yeah, yeah. kin(grounds to suspect hmrc has grounds to suspect a significant loss of tax, which makes you wonder they significant loss of tax, which make launch 'onder they significant loss of tax, which make launch anier they significant loss of tax, which make launch an investigationley don't launch an investigation when it's like an extra cup of coffee or the odd meal here and there. yes, but yes, we're talking about large amounts of money and we talk about money that due that w

they probably need a jcb for it, to be honest. >> a little bit clumsy, aren't they, this?i just paid £250 for a top heart surgeon told me that there was nothing wrong with me. right. i said if i give you 500, what will i do? >> kelvin mackenzie , alive and >> kelvin mackenzie, alive and kicking. kelvin, thrilled to have you in the studio. i hope you'll week's time you'll be back in a week's time and in the week and i think later in the week as well. that well. let me tell you that professor banfield, professor phil banfield, chairman the bma council, has chairman of the bma council, has said doctors are fed up of being told that we're problem with told that we're the problem with the to valued the nhs wanting to be valued for our expertise. the same as we were in 2008, is radical were in 2008, is not a radical demand. it's essential demand. in fact, it's essential to having workforce needed to having the workforce needed to having the workforce needed to waiting times . to bring down waiting times. okay, let's get now to my pundits and their greatest britons and union jack