jean-baptiste thoret: of course not.tion of crossing the line or not is interesting because i think the line is inside you. did i write the right article? you can make a bad cartoon. it happens all the time. but is it a reason to kill people? no. charlie: no one made that argument. jean-baptiste thoret: of course. but the question of the line is important. it depends on you. that is very important. the line is something subjective. it is very hard to say i am crossing the line, not crossing the line. if you share what you are standing for, it will be ok. ♪ charlie: gary trudeau, there have been criticisms of your pen award and support of it. gary trudeau said by attacking a powerless, disenfranchised minority with crude drawings closer to graffiti than cartoons, charlie wandered into the realm of hate speech. this is gary trudeau. gerard biard: so what? the thing you have to have in mind is that we are not attacking weak people. we attack states, powerful people, huge institutions. we are not attacking muslims. we are at

jean baptiste is just coming into view, and it's an unprovoked attack on mr. jules. mr. jules, from our perspective, and from the officers' observation, never fought back to defend himself. detainee jules did not see the attack coming. and you can see that mr. jean baptiste really manhandles him for quite some time, actually launching a flying kick there. >> i never do nothing to you. why would you just come to beat me and take me, drop me on the floor like that. like someone who you're trying to kill me, right? so why? my neck, i can't move it. and now i feel headache. i feel headache. and then keep -- >> while jules said the attack was unprovoked jean baptiste told jail officials he was acting on a long-held grudge from the streets. >> inmate jean baptiste blamed inmate jules for his previous incarceration. i don't know what happened on the street between them but he blamed everything on inmate jules. apparently he's been waiting two years to get his hands on him. >> both inmates went to the seg unit. inmate jules was found not guilty, and he was released from the seg

they are gerard biard and jean-baptiste thoret and the lessons therein. >> it shocked people. >> i swear in the u.s. you know, but we are tradition because we are deciding, we are sometime attacking you know, just the ideas. that's very important. literal practical person, you know what i mean, it's very important. an institution left wing, right wing, sport. we have to say between 2005 and 2015, just seven -- where about the prophet. >> rose: we conclude this exwith the conductor of the boston pops orchestra keith lockhart. >> i've always been amazed by the emotive connective power of music. it can bring people to tears without the benefit or perhaps without the limitation of language. this strong direct emotional messaging that music provides. and to be able to share that with people. that's really what performers do. there's two reasons to be a performer. one is what it gives to you and the other one is the chance to share this amazing thing. you just want to say this is a huge part of my life, here, check this out. >> rose: charlie hebdo and the boston pops when we continue. >> rose: