we are waiting for jean barda. and police are saying -- early reports are contradictory. we have now had tonight three people who are inside the mall saying one -- the first said they heard eight or nine shots. the next person said she believed she heard six and jonathan said four. contradictory information. emotions are running high. but the new jersey state police says no reports of any injuries so far. >> very good news. it's interesting that the reports are coming out that he shot out cameras. that's what the police are saying. it makes you wonder between the ten minutes before closing time of the mall, takes out cameras in a particular area, he had to walk to the mall to get to that location. there is something else preconceived going on that this person is looking to deal with. >> jean barada is joining us. what is happening at the mall? what can you tell us? >> bergen county s.w.a.t. has been deployed to the scene and they are evacuating the mall. >> do you know what the threat is? . >> all we know is we believe there is one shooter in the mall. multiple shots were