liz: look who's back with vice president of american first legal, jean hamilton is good to see again again special counsel jack smith the dc appeals court over trump's motion to lift the limited gag order in federal election in 2020 case month trump's lawyer say this filing from's first when the race and special counsel jack smith demands a trump no one attacking him from the special counsel smith mark the prosecutors are drudgery witnesses and you think of all of the. gene: you having me on the gag order is observed in its over brought in ridiculous we were proud supported going from's first amendment rights and precisely because, it is a ridiculous order in violation of the first amendment rights in both as a political candidate, and a defendant and so the result of what we have now takes a back and you think think about it is that you have permanent just as natalie recognized political opponents but also seeking to silence them to stop them from speaking out against the very people, hundred but what an icing the instruments of government. liz: city of new york appeals court judge

particularly, jean hamilton, if you don't know was the architect of this program. he worked at department of homeland security and he worked at doj where i worked for many years. chad wolf is a former secretary of homeland security who implement this policy and adam, thank you for being here to give -- i appreciate the human rights perspective here. we have some ideas as how to deal with that as well. i know the tent city was an issue i'm about -- the tension space is one consideration we should be looking at. i want to thank the members for being here. i hope we have a vigorous debate on this and and honest debate about what is best for the american people and again i want to thank the witnesses and i would normally turn to the ranking member. he is on the floor with my $6 billion being sanctioned from going into iran. he's a little busy right now, but with that, i will now turn to ths for their testimony. one mr. meek shows up we will give him a moment to give an opening statement, but mr. chad wolf is active secretary, chief strategy officer and chair of america